From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Li RongQing <lirongqing@baidu.com>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] seqlock: introduce scoped_seqlock_read() and scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave()
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 00:12:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251009221242.GX3419281@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wh3h5cV=UiTg+gvqB-T6+pStDNH0+6w4i34qMC1BQwmpg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 09, 2025 at 01:24:51PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 at 13:12, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > Slightly nicer version that's actually compiled :-)
>
> I assume that "target of ss_lockless" is an intentional extension to
> just make the loop never take a lock at all?
Yep. Almost came for free, so might as well do it.
> I do like it, but I think you'll find that having a separate 'seq' and
> 'flags' like this:
>
> > +struct ss_tmp {
> > + enum ss_state state;
> > + int seq;
> > + unsigned long flags;
> > + spinlock_t *lock;
> > +};
>
> makes it unnecessarily waste a register.
>
> You never need both seq and flags at the same time, since if you take
> the spinlock the sequence number is pointless.
>
> So please make that a union, and I think it will help avoid wasting a
> register in the loop.
Sure; otoh compiler should be able to tell the same using liveness
analysis I suppose, but perhaps they're not *that* clever.
> Other than that I like it. Except that "BUG()" really bugs me. It will
> generate horrendous code for no reason and we *really* shouldn't add
> BUG statements anyway.
>
> Either that inline function is fine, or it isn't. Don't make it
> generate stupid code for "I'm not fine" that will also be a huge pain
> to debug because if that code is buggy it will presumably trigger in
> context where the machine will be dead, dead, dead.
So I thought they were fine; we handle all the enum cases with 'return'
so its impossible to not exit the switch() but the silly compiler was
complaining about possible fall-through, so clearly it was getting
confused.
The ss_done case should never trip either -- perhaps I should make that
one of those __scoped_seqlock_fail like things as well.
Anyway, I'll play around with it some (and look at actual code-gen)
tomorrow.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-09 22:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-28 16:19 [PATCH 0/1] documentation: seqlock: fix the wrong documentation of read_seqbegin_or_lock/need_seqretry Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-28 16:20 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-01 18:21 ` Waiman Long
2025-10-01 19:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-01 19:24 ` Waiman Long
2025-10-01 19:34 ` Waiman Long
2025-10-02 11:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-21 10:35 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-28 16:20 ` [RFC 2/1] seqlock: make the read_seqbegin_or_lock() API more simple and less error-prone ? Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-29 0:41 ` [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-09-29 6:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-01 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-01 13:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-01 13:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-02 12:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-30 22:09 ` David Howells
2025-10-01 11:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:47 ` [PATCH 0/5] seqlock: introduce SEQLOCK_READ_SECTION() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-05 16:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-05 14:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] seqlock: change thread_group_cputime() to use SEQLOCK_READ_SECTION() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] seqlock: change do_task_stat() " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] seqlock: change do_io_accounting() " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] seqlock: change __dentry_path() to use __SEQLOCK_READ_SECTION() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 15:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-05 15:30 ` [PATCH 0/5] seqlock: introduce SEQLOCK_READ_SECTION() Al Viro
2025-10-05 17:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 14:20 ` [PATCH 0/4] seqlock: introduce scoped_seqlock_read() and scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 14:21 ` [PATCH 1/4] " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 16:35 ` Waiman Long
2025-10-07 17:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 17:21 ` Waiman Long
2025-10-07 14:21 ` [PATCH 2/4] seqlock: change thread_group_cputime() to use scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 14:21 ` [PATCH 3/4] seqlock: change do_task_stat() " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 14:21 ` [PATCH 4/4] seqlock: change do_io_accounting() " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 15:38 ` [PATCH 0/4] seqlock: introduce scoped_seqlock_read() and scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Linus Torvalds
2025-10-07 16:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:30 ` [PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 12:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-08 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-09 5:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 7:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 14:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-09 16:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 19:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 20:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 22:12 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-10-09 22:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-10 8:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-10 12:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-10 13:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-13 9:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-13 11:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-10 15:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 23:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 23:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-21 10:35 ` [tip: locking/core] seqlock: Introduce scoped_seqlock_read() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 12:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] seqlock: change thread_group_cputime() to use scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-21 10:35 ` [tip: locking/core] seqlock: Change thread_group_cputime() to use scoped_seqlock_read() tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:30 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] seqlock: change do_task_stat() to use scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-21 10:35 ` [tip: locking/core] seqlock: Change do_task_stat() to use scoped_seqlock_read() tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:31 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] seqlock: change do_io_accounting() to use scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-21 10:35 ` [tip: locking/core] seqlock: Change do_io_accounting() to use scoped_seqlock_read() tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] seqlock: introduce scoped_seqlock_read() and scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 13:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 13:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
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