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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Li RongQing <lirongqing@baidu.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] seqlock: introduce scoped_seqlock_read() and scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave()
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 00:12:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251009221242.GX3419281@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wh3h5cV=UiTg+gvqB-T6+pStDNH0+6w4i34qMC1BQwmpg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 09, 2025 at 01:24:51PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 at 13:12, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > Slightly nicer version that's actually compiled :-)
> 
> I assume that "target of ss_lockless" is an intentional extension to
> just make the loop never take a lock at all?

Yep. Almost came for free, so might as well do it.

> I do like it, but I think you'll find that having a separate 'seq' and
> 'flags' like this:
> 
> > +struct ss_tmp {
> > +       enum ss_state   state;
> > +       int             seq;
> > +       unsigned long   flags;
> > +       spinlock_t      *lock;
> > +};
> 
> makes it unnecessarily waste a register.
> 
> You never need both seq and flags at the same time, since if you take
> the spinlock the sequence number is pointless.
> 
> So please make that a union, and I think it will help avoid wasting a
> register in the loop.

Sure; otoh compiler should be able to tell the same using liveness
analysis I suppose, but perhaps they're not *that* clever.

> Other than that I like it. Except that "BUG()" really bugs me. It will
> generate horrendous code for no reason and we *really* shouldn't add
> BUG statements anyway.
> 
> Either that inline function is fine, or it isn't. Don't make it
> generate stupid code for "I'm not fine" that will also be a huge pain
> to debug because if that code is buggy it will presumably trigger in
> context where the machine will be dead, dead, dead.

So I thought they were fine; we handle all the enum cases with 'return'
so its impossible to not exit the switch() but the silly compiler was
complaining about possible fall-through, so clearly it was getting
confused.

The ss_done case should never trip either -- perhaps I should make that
one of those __scoped_seqlock_fail like things as well.

Anyway, I'll play around with it some (and look at actual code-gen)
tomorrow.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-09 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-28 16:19 [PATCH 0/1] documentation: seqlock: fix the wrong documentation of read_seqbegin_or_lock/need_seqretry Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-28 16:20 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-01 18:21   ` Waiman Long
2025-10-01 19:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-01 19:24       ` Waiman Long
2025-10-01 19:34         ` Waiman Long
2025-10-02 11:01     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-21 10:35   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-28 16:20 ` [RFC 2/1] seqlock: make the read_seqbegin_or_lock() API more simple and less error-prone ? Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-29  0:41   ` [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-09-29  6:47     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-01 13:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-01 13:13     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-01 13:46       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-02 12:58       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-30 22:09 ` David Howells
2025-10-01 11:51   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:47 ` [PATCH 0/5] seqlock: introduce SEQLOCK_READ_SECTION() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:50   ` [PATCH 1/5] " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 15:34     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-05 16:07       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 16:35         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-05 14:50   ` [PATCH 2/5] seqlock: change thread_group_cputime() to use SEQLOCK_READ_SECTION() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:50   ` [PATCH 3/5] seqlock: change do_task_stat() " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:50   ` [PATCH 4/5] seqlock: change do_io_accounting() " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 14:50   ` [PATCH 5/5] seqlock: change __dentry_path() to use __SEQLOCK_READ_SECTION() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-05 15:48     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-05 15:30   ` [PATCH 0/5] seqlock: introduce SEQLOCK_READ_SECTION() Al Viro
2025-10-05 17:40     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 14:20 ` [PATCH 0/4] seqlock: introduce scoped_seqlock_read() and scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 14:21   ` [PATCH 1/4] " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 16:35     ` Waiman Long
2025-10-07 17:18       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 17:21         ` Waiman Long
2025-10-07 14:21   ` [PATCH 2/4] seqlock: change thread_group_cputime() to use scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 14:21   ` [PATCH 3/4] seqlock: change do_task_stat() " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 14:21   ` [PATCH 4/4] seqlock: change do_io_accounting() " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-07 15:38   ` [PATCH 0/4] seqlock: introduce scoped_seqlock_read() and scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Linus Torvalds
2025-10-07 16:34     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:30 ` [PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:30   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] " Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 12:59       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 13:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 16:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-08 16:55       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-09  5:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09  7:04         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 14:37           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-09 16:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 19:50             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 20:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 20:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 22:12                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-10-09 22:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-10  8:03                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-10 12:32                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-10 13:14                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-13  9:03                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-13 11:50                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-10 15:30                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 23:20                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 23:26                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-21 10:35                 ` [tip: locking/core] seqlock: Introduce scoped_seqlock_read() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 12:30   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] seqlock: change thread_group_cputime() to use scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-21 10:35     ` [tip: locking/core] seqlock: Change thread_group_cputime() to use scoped_seqlock_read() tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:30   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] seqlock: change do_task_stat() to use scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-21 10:35     ` [tip: locking/core] seqlock: Change do_task_stat() to use scoped_seqlock_read() tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:31   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] seqlock: change do_io_accounting() to use scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-21 10:35     ` [tip: locking/core] seqlock: Change do_io_accounting() to use scoped_seqlock_read() tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 12:56   ` [PATCH v2 0/4] seqlock: introduce scoped_seqlock_read() and scoped_seqlock_read_irqsave() Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 13:13     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-08 13:55       ` Peter Zijlstra

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