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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Peng Wang <peng_wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Clear ->h_load_next after hierarchical load
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 16:46:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251015144641.GA3168635@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtD-RJoMEHSQToF_578KZ=WszR+xStxNghiWpv4asnHBoA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 03:14:37PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 at 14:44, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 08:19:50PM +0800, Peng Wang wrote:
> >
> > > We found that the task_group corresponding to the problematic se
> > > is not in the parent task_group???s children list, indicating that
> > > h_load_next points to an invalid address. Consider the following
> > > cgroup and task hierarchy:
> > >
> > >          A
> > >         / \
> > >        /   \
> > >       B     E
> > >      / \    |
> > >     /   \   t2
> > >    C     D
> > >    |     |
> > >    t0    t1
> > >
> > > Here follows a timing sequence that may be responsible for triggering
> > > the problem:
> > >
> > > CPU X                   CPU Y                   CPU Z
> > > wakeup t0
> > > set list A->B->C
> > > traverse A->B->C
> > > t0 exits
> > > destroy C
> > >                         wakeup t2
> > >                         set list A->E           wakeup t1
> > >                                                 set list A->B->D
> > >                         traverse A->B->C
> > >                         panic
> > >
> > > CPU Z sets ->h_load_next list to A->B->D, but due to arm64 weaker memory
> > > ordering, Y may observe A->B before it sees B->D, then in this time window,
> > > it can traverse A->B->C and reach an invalid se.
> >
> > Hmm, I rather think we should ensure update_cfs_rq_h_load() is
> > serialized against unregister_fair_sched_group().
> 
> The bug has been reported for v5.10 which probably don't have fixed
> done "recently"
> commit b027789e5e50 ("sched/fair: Prevent dead task groups from
> regaining cfs_rq's")

Yeah, but nobody is going to develop against that ancient thing. So the
above is just one more patch the would need to get backported.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-15 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-15 12:19 Peng Wang
2025-10-15 12:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 13:14   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-15 14:46     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-10-22  9:00     ` Peng Wang
2025-10-22 12:52       ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-23  6:28         ` [PATCH v2] sched/fair: Clear ->h_load_next when unregistering cgroup Peng Wang
2025-10-24  7:08           ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-24  7:23             ` [PATCH v3] " Peng Wang
2025-10-24  7:52               ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-03  8:17                 ` Peng Wang
2025-10-16  3:06   ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Clear ->h_load_next after hierarchical load Peng Wang
2025-11-17 18:59     ` Krister Johansen

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