From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Peng Wang <peng_wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Clear ->h_load_next after hierarchical load
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 16:46:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251015144641.GA3168635@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtD-RJoMEHSQToF_578KZ=WszR+xStxNghiWpv4asnHBoA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 03:14:37PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 at 14:44, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 08:19:50PM +0800, Peng Wang wrote:
> >
> > > We found that the task_group corresponding to the problematic se
> > > is not in the parent task_group???s children list, indicating that
> > > h_load_next points to an invalid address. Consider the following
> > > cgroup and task hierarchy:
> > >
> > > A
> > > / \
> > > / \
> > > B E
> > > / \ |
> > > / \ t2
> > > C D
> > > | |
> > > t0 t1
> > >
> > > Here follows a timing sequence that may be responsible for triggering
> > > the problem:
> > >
> > > CPU X CPU Y CPU Z
> > > wakeup t0
> > > set list A->B->C
> > > traverse A->B->C
> > > t0 exits
> > > destroy C
> > > wakeup t2
> > > set list A->E wakeup t1
> > > set list A->B->D
> > > traverse A->B->C
> > > panic
> > >
> > > CPU Z sets ->h_load_next list to A->B->D, but due to arm64 weaker memory
> > > ordering, Y may observe A->B before it sees B->D, then in this time window,
> > > it can traverse A->B->C and reach an invalid se.
> >
> > Hmm, I rather think we should ensure update_cfs_rq_h_load() is
> > serialized against unregister_fair_sched_group().
>
> The bug has been reported for v5.10 which probably don't have fixed
> done "recently"
> commit b027789e5e50 ("sched/fair: Prevent dead task groups from
> regaining cfs_rq's")
Yeah, but nobody is going to develop against that ancient thing. So the
above is just one more patch the would need to get backported.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-15 14:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-15 12:19 Peng Wang
2025-10-15 12:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 13:14 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-15 14:46 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-10-22 9:00 ` Peng Wang
2025-10-22 12:52 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-23 6:28 ` [PATCH v2] sched/fair: Clear ->h_load_next when unregistering cgroup Peng Wang
2025-10-24 7:08 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-24 7:23 ` [PATCH v3] " Peng Wang
2025-10-24 7:52 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-03 8:17 ` Peng Wang
2025-10-16 3:06 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Clear ->h_load_next after hierarchical load Peng Wang
2025-11-17 18:59 ` Krister Johansen
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