From: Peng Wang <peng_wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
vschneid@redhat.com, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Clear ->h_load_next after hierarchical load
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 11:06:17 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251016030617.GA46570@j38d01266.eu95sqa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251015124422.GD3419281@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 02:44:22PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 08:19:50PM +0800, Peng Wang wrote:
>
> > We found that the task_group corresponding to the problematic se
> > is not in the parent task_group’s children list, indicating that
> > h_load_next points to an invalid address. Consider the following
> > cgroup and task hierarchy:
> >
> > A
> > / \
> > / \
> > B E
> > / \ |
> > / \ t2
> > C D
> > | |
> > t0 t1
> >
> > Here follows a timing sequence that may be responsible for triggering
> > the problem:
> >
> > CPU X CPU Y CPU Z
> > wakeup t0
> > set list A->B->C
> > traverse A->B->C
> > t0 exits
> > destroy C
> > wakeup t2
> > set list A->E wakeup t1
> > set list A->B->D
> > traverse A->B->C
> > panic
> >
> > CPU Z sets ->h_load_next list to A->B->D, but due to arm64 weaker memory
> > ordering, Y may observe A->B before it sees B->D, then in this time window,
> > it can traverse A->B->C and reach an invalid se.
>
> Hmm, I rather think we should ensure update_cfs_rq_h_load() is
> serialized against unregister_fair_sched_group().
I might be mistaken, but it seems that, even with RCU protection around
update_cfs_rq_h_load(), there remains a risk of reading stale values.
CPU X CPU Y CPU Z
wakeup t0
rcu_read_lock()
set list A->B->C
traverse A->B->C
rcu_read_unlock()
t0 exits
destroy C
After the prior RCU grace period has elapsed, C has already been reclaimed,
yet the stale A->B->C remains.
wakeup t2
rcu_read_lock()
set list A->E wakeup t1
rcu_read_lock()
set list A->B->D
...
traverse A->B->C
panic
A subsequent rcu_read_lock() only guarantees that A/B/D/E will not be
reclaimed while the list is being traversed; C had already been freed
before the next grace period even began.
>
> And I'm thinking that really shouldn't be hard; note how
> sched_unregister_group() already has an RCU grace period. So all we need
> to ensure is that task_h_load() is called in a context that stops RCU
> grace periods (rcu_read_lock(), preempt_disable(), local_irq_disable(),
> local_bh_disable()).
>
> A very quick scan makes me think at the very least the usage in
>
> task_numa_migrate()
> task_numa_find_cpu()
> task_h_load()
>
> fails here; probably more.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-16 3:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-15 12:19 Peng Wang
2025-10-15 12:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 13:14 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-15 14:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-22 9:00 ` Peng Wang
2025-10-22 12:52 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-23 6:28 ` [PATCH v2] sched/fair: Clear ->h_load_next when unregistering cgroup Peng Wang
2025-10-24 7:08 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-24 7:23 ` [PATCH v3] " Peng Wang
2025-10-24 7:52 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-03 8:17 ` Peng Wang
2025-10-16 3:06 ` Peng Wang [this message]
2025-11-17 18:59 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Clear ->h_load_next after hierarchical load Krister Johansen
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