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From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	"Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwi@linutronix.de>,
	Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/its: use Sapphire Rapids+ feature to opt out
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 12:44:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251020194446.w2s5f6nr7i7vw4ve@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251017011253.2937710-1-jon@nutanix.com>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 06:12:49PM -0700, Jon Kohler wrote:
> A VMM may not expose ITS_NO or BHI_CTL, so guests cannot rely on those
> bits to determine whether they might be migrated to ITS-affected
> hardware. Rather than depending on a control that may be absent, detect
> ITS-unaffected hosts via a CPU feature that is exclusive to Sapphire
> Rapids and newer processors.

BHI_CTRL is also exclusive to Sapphire Rapids and newer processors. Why
wouldn't it be exposed to guests but BUS_LOCK_DETECT would be?

Not exposing BHI_CTRL has another disadvantage that guests would deploy the
BHB-clear sequence when they could have used cheaper hardware mitigation
for BHI.

> Use X86_FEATURE_BUS_LOCK_DETECT as the canary: it is present on
> Sapphire Rapids+ parts and provides a reliable indicator that the guest
> won't be moved to ITS-affected hardware.

I am puzzled why BUS_LOCK_DETECT is more reliable than BHI_CTRL?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-20 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-17  1:12 Jon Kohler
2025-10-20 15:48 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-20 16:05   ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-20 16:21     ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-20 16:26       ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-20 19:26       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-20 19:38         ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-20 19:53           ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-20 20:29             ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-20 19:44 ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
2025-10-20 19:54   ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-20 20:40     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-20 21:02       ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-20 22:09       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-20 22:41         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-21 13:40           ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-21 14:01             ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-21 14:39               ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-21 15:21                 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-21 15:40                   ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-21 15:27                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2025-10-21 15:35                   ` Jon Kohler
2025-10-21 15:46                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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