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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pierre.gondois@arm.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	qyousef@layalina.io, christian.loehle@arm.com,
	luis.machado@arm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/6 v7] sched/fair: Add EAS and idle cpu push trigger
Date: Wed,  3 Dec 2025 17:00:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251203090042.1804-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtCi3xw53_S8W2CZKZVE60q8G-AVq82UUm_SMD+Pt0xDYA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:01:39 +0100 Vincent Guittot wrote:
>On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 at 10:45, Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com> wrote:
>> On Mon,  1 Dec 2025 10:13:08 +0100 Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> > EAS is based on wakeup events to efficiently place tasks on the system, but
>> > there are cases where a task doesn't have wakeup events anymore or at a far
>> > too low pace. For such cases, we check if it's worht pushing hte task on
>> > another CPUs instead of putting it back in the enqueued list.
>> >
>> > Wake up events remain the main way to migrate tasks but we now detect
>> > situation where a task is stuck on a CPU by checking that its utilization
>> > is larger than the max available compute capacity (max cpu capacity or
>> > uclamp max setting)
>> >
>> > When the system becomes overutilized and some CPUs are idle, we try to
>> > push tasks instead of waiting periodic load balance.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
>> > ---
>> >  kernel/sched/fair.c     | 65 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >  kernel/sched/topology.c |  3 ++
>> >  2 files changed, 68 insertions(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> > index 9af8d0a61856..e9e1d0c05805 100644
>> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> > @@ -6990,6 +6990,7 @@ enqueue_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
>> >  }
>> >
>> >  static void fair_remove_pushable_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p);
>> > +
>> >  /*
>> >   * Basically dequeue_task_fair(), except it can deal with dequeue_entity()
>> >   * failing half-way through and resume the dequeue later.
>> > @@ -8499,8 +8500,72 @@ static inline bool sched_push_task_enabled(void)
>> >       return static_branch_unlikely(&sched_push_task);
>> >  }
>> >
>> > +static inline bool task_stuck_on_cpu(struct task_struct *p, int cpu)
>> > +{
>> > +     unsigned long max_capa, util;
>> > +
>> > +     max_capa = min(get_actual_cpu_capacity(cpu),
>> > +                    uclamp_eff_value(p, UCLAMP_MAX));
>> > +     util = max(task_util_est(p), task_runnable(p));
>> > +
>> > +     /*
>> > +      * Return true only if the task might not sleep/wakeup because of a low
>> > +      * compute capacity. Tasks, which wake up regularly, will be handled by
>> > +      * feec().
>> > +      */
>> > +     return (util > max_capa);
>> > +}
>> > +
>> > +static inline bool sched_energy_push_task(struct task_struct *p, struct rq *rq)
>> > +{
>> > +     if (!sched_energy_enabled())
>> > +             return false;
>> > +
>> > +     if (is_rd_overutilized(rq->rd))
>> > +             return false;
>> > +
>> > +     if (task_stuck_on_cpu(p, cpu_of(rq)))
>> > +             return true;
>> > +
>> > +     if (!task_fits_cpu(p, cpu_of(rq)))
>> > +             return true;
>> > +
>> > +     return false;
>> > +}
>> > +
>> > +static inline bool sched_idle_push_task(struct task_struct *p, struct rq *rq)
>> > +{
>> > +     if (rq->nr_running == 1)
>> > +             return false;
>> > +
>> > +     if (!is_rd_overutilized(rq->rd))
>> > +             return false;
>> > +
>> > +     /* If there are idle cpus in the llc then try to push the task on it */
>> > +     if (test_idle_cores(cpu_of(rq)))
>> > +             return true;
>> > +
>> > +     return false;
>> > +}
>> > +
>> > +
>> >  static bool fair_push_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
>> >  {
>> > +     if (!task_on_rq_queued(p))
>> > +             return false;
>>
>> Task is queued on rq.
>> > +
>> > +     if (p->se.sched_delayed)
>> > +             return false;
>> > +
>> > +     if (p->nr_cpus_allowed == 1)
>> > +             return false;
>> > +
>> > +     if (sched_energy_push_task(p, rq))
>> > +             return true;
>>
>> If task is stuck on CPU, it could not be on rq. Weird.
>
> May be it comes from my description and I should use task_stuck_on_rq
> By stuck, I mean that the task doesn't have any opportunity to migrate
> on another cpu/rq and stay "forever"  (at least until next sleep) on
> this cpu/rq because load balancing is disabled/bypassed w/ EAS
> Here Stuck does not mean blocked/sleeping
>
Given task queued on rq, I find the correct phrase, stack, in the cover
letter instead of stuck, and the long-standing stacking tasks mean load
balancer fails to cure that stack. 1/7 fixes that failure, no?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-03  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-01  9:13 [PATCH 0/6 v7] sched/fair: Add push task mecansim and hadle more EAS cases Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [PATCH 1/6 v7] sched/fair: Filter false overloaded_group case for EAS Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [PATCH 2/6 v7] sched/fair: Update overutilized detection Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [PATCH 3/6 v7] sched/fair: Prepare select_task_rq_fair() to be called for new cases Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [PATCH 4/6 v7] sched/fair: Add push task mechanism for fair Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6 v7] sched/fair: Enable idle core tracking for !SMT Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6 v7] sched/fair: Add EAS and idle cpu push trigger Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01 13:53   ` Christian Loehle
2025-12-01 17:49     ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01 19:33       ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-02  9:44   ` Hillf Danton
2025-12-02 13:01     ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-03  9:00       ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2025-12-03 13:32         ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-04  6:59           ` Hillf Danton
2025-12-05 15:02             ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-06 10:31               ` Hillf Danton
2025-12-01 13:31 ` [PATCH 0/6 v7] sched/fair: Add push task mecansim and hadle more EAS cases Christian Loehle
2025-12-01 13:57   ` Christian Loehle
2025-12-01 17:48     ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01 17:48   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01 22:02 ` David Laight
2025-12-02 13:24   ` Vincent Guittot

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