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From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pierre.gondois@arm.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com
Cc: qyousef@layalina.io, hongyan.xia2@arm.com, luis.machado@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6 v7] sched/fair: Add push task mecansim and hadle more EAS cases
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 13:57:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb43aba2-16e5-4da9-90bd-2804d0458378@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18aa730a-01c5-48d8-9f08-44f4dfca4808@arm.com>

Nit in the title: mechanism, handle

On 12/1/25 13:31, Christian Loehle wrote:
> On 12/1/25 09:13, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> This is a subset of [1] (sched/fair: Rework EAS to handle more cases)
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250314163614.1356125-1-vincent.guittot@linaro.org/
>>
>> The current Energy Aware Scheduler has some known limitations which have
>> became more and more visible with features like uclamp as an example. This
>> serie tries to fix some of those issues:
>> - tasks stacked on the same CPU of a PD
>> - tasks stuck on the wrong CPU.
>>
>> Patch 1 fixes the case where a CPU is wrongly classified as overloaded
>> whereas it is capped to a lower compute capacity. This wrong classification
>> can prevent periodic load balancer to select a group_misfit_task CPU
>> because group_overloaded has higher priority.
>>
>> Patch 2 removes the need of testing uclamp_min in cpu_overutilized to
>> trigger the active migration of a task on another CPU.
>>
>> Patch 3 prepares select_task_rq_fair() to be called without TTWU, Fork or
>> Exec flags when we just want to look for a possible better CPU.
>>
>> Patch 4 adds push call back mecanism to fair scheduler but doesn't enable
>> it.
>>
>> Patch 5 enable has_idle_core for !SMP system to track if there may be an
>> idle CPU in the LLC.
>>
>> Patch 6 adds some conditions to enable pushing runnable tasks for EAS:
>> - when a task is stuck on a CPU and the system is not overutilized.
>> - if there is a possible idle CPU when the system is overutilized.
>>
>> More tests results will come later as I wanted to send the pachtset before
>> LPC.
>>
>> Tbench  on dragonboard rb5
>> schedutil and EAS enabled
>>
>> # process     tip                   +patchset
>> 1              29.1(+/-4.1%)        124.7(+/-12.3%) +329%
>> 2              60.0(+/-0.9%)        216.1(+/- 7.9%) +260%
>> 4             255.8(+/-1.9%)        421.4(+/- 2.0%)  +65%       
>> 8            1317.3(+/-4.6%)       1396.1(+/- 3.0%)   +6%
>> 16            958.2(+/-4.6%)        979.6(+/- 2.0%)   +2%
> 
> Just so I understand, there's no uclamp in the workload here?
> Could you expand on the workload a little, what were the parameters/settings?
> So the significant increase is really only for nr_proc < nr_cpus, with the
> observed throughput increase it'll probably be something like "always running
> on little CPUs" vs "always running on big CPUs", is that what's happening?
> Also shouldn't tbench still have plenty of wakeup events? It issues plenty of
> TCP anyway.

... or if not why does OU not trigger on tip?

> 
>>
>> Hackbench didn't show any difference
>>
>>
>> Vincent Guittot (6):
>>   sched/fair: Filter false overloaded_group case for EAS
>>   sched/fair: Update overutilized detection
>>   sched/fair: Prepare select_task_rq_fair() to be called for new cases
>>   sched/fair: Add push task mechanism for fair
>>   sched/fair: Enable idle core tracking for !SMT
>>   sched/fair: Add EAS and idle cpu push trigger
>>
>>  kernel/sched/fair.c     | 350 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>>  kernel/sched/sched.h    |  46 ++++--
>>  kernel/sched/topology.c |   3 +
>>  3 files changed, 346 insertions(+), 53 deletions(-)
>>

I can't apply this on yesterday's released 6.18 and not on tip/sched-core, what's
this based on? Can I get a branch or a 6.18 rebase?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-01 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-01  9:13 Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [PATCH 1/6 v7] sched/fair: Filter false overloaded_group case for EAS Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [PATCH 2/6 v7] sched/fair: Update overutilized detection Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [PATCH 3/6 v7] sched/fair: Prepare select_task_rq_fair() to be called for new cases Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [PATCH 4/6 v7] sched/fair: Add push task mechanism for fair Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6 v7] sched/fair: Enable idle core tracking for !SMT Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01  9:13 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6 v7] sched/fair: Add EAS and idle cpu push trigger Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01 13:53   ` Christian Loehle
2025-12-01 17:49     ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01 19:33       ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-02  9:44   ` Hillf Danton
2025-12-02 13:01     ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-03  9:00       ` Hillf Danton
2025-12-03 13:32         ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-04  6:59           ` Hillf Danton
2025-12-05 15:02             ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-06 10:31               ` Hillf Danton
2025-12-01 13:31 ` [PATCH 0/6 v7] sched/fair: Add push task mecansim and hadle more EAS cases Christian Loehle
2025-12-01 13:57   ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2025-12-01 17:48     ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01 17:48   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-01 22:02 ` David Laight
2025-12-02 13:24   ` Vincent Guittot

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