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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Dmytro Maluka <dmaluka@chromium.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Vineeth Pillai (Google)" <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>,
	Aashish Sharma <aashish@aashishsharma.net>,
	Grzegorz Jaszczyk <jaszczyk@chromium.org>,
	Chuanxiao Dong <chuanxiao.dong@intel.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context & root entry updates
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 15:14:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260105191410.GJ125261@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aVwI_SHHGPl0xndu@google.com>

On Mon, Jan 05, 2026 at 07:54:53PM +0100, Dmytro Maluka wrote:
> > Like AMD and ARM build the new PASID entry on the stack and then it
> > should be copied to the DMA'able memory in a way that is consistent
> > with the HW's atomicity granual, paying attention not to 'tear' it.
> 
> As I understand, the "consistent with the HW's atomicity granual, paying
> attention not to 'tear' it" part is already fulfilled for PASID entries
> (and with this series, for context entries as well):
> 
> static inline void pasid_set_bits(u64 *ptr, u64 mask, u64 bits)
> {
> 	u64 old;
> 
> 	old = READ_ONCE(*ptr);
> 	WRITE_ONCE(*ptr, (old & ~mask) | bits);
> }
> 
> I've been assuming it's ok to manipulate other bits in place as long as
> we take care to only do that while the present bit it cleared (i.e.
> while the entry is ignored by hardware)?

If these are only done while non-present then the only issue is
missing a barrier before setting present, that should be a one line
patch, no?

> So IIUC the only problem with this approach is the redundancy: we do
> this READ_ONCE+WRITE_ONCE for each invididual field in a PASID entry.

You don't need READ_ONCE if there isn't another thread concurrently
writing, and WRITE_ONCE is pointless if the HW is promising not to
read it due to non-present.

> So while I agree it would be more more natural to build whole entries,
> and the existing way looks strange and not the most efficient, I'm
> wondering if it is causing any actual correctness issues (apart from
> those addressed by this series).

It prevents doing the replace operation, which is a correctness issue
for VMs.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-05 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-27 17:57 Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] iommu/vt-d: Sanitize set bits in pasid_set_bits() Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] iommu/vt-d: Generalize pasid_set_bits() Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context entry updates Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] iommu/vt-d: Use smp_wmb() before setting context/pasid present bit Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] iommu/vt-d: Use WRITE_ONCE for setting root table entries Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-05 18:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context & root entry updates Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-05 18:54   ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-05 19:14     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-05 20:05       ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-06  0:14         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-06  7:48           ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-06 14:40             ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-08  2:22               ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-06 13:51           ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-06 14:23             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-06 15:50               ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-06 16:45                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-06 17:14                   ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-08  2:09                 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-09  6:32                   ` Baolu Lu
     [not found]                 ` <BN9PR11MB5276FB0F465DBFB4EE4D742B8C85A@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2026-01-08  7:00                   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-06  3:37   ` Baolu Lu

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