From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Dmytro Maluka <dmaluka@chromium.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Vineeth Pillai (Google)" <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>,
Aashish Sharma <aashish@aashishsharma.net>,
Grzegorz Jaszczyk <jaszczyk@chromium.org>,
Chuanxiao Dong <chuanxiao.dong@intel.com>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context & root entry updates
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 15:14:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260105191410.GJ125261@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aVwI_SHHGPl0xndu@google.com>
On Mon, Jan 05, 2026 at 07:54:53PM +0100, Dmytro Maluka wrote:
> > Like AMD and ARM build the new PASID entry on the stack and then it
> > should be copied to the DMA'able memory in a way that is consistent
> > with the HW's atomicity granual, paying attention not to 'tear' it.
>
> As I understand, the "consistent with the HW's atomicity granual, paying
> attention not to 'tear' it" part is already fulfilled for PASID entries
> (and with this series, for context entries as well):
>
> static inline void pasid_set_bits(u64 *ptr, u64 mask, u64 bits)
> {
> u64 old;
>
> old = READ_ONCE(*ptr);
> WRITE_ONCE(*ptr, (old & ~mask) | bits);
> }
>
> I've been assuming it's ok to manipulate other bits in place as long as
> we take care to only do that while the present bit it cleared (i.e.
> while the entry is ignored by hardware)?
If these are only done while non-present then the only issue is
missing a barrier before setting present, that should be a one line
patch, no?
> So IIUC the only problem with this approach is the redundancy: we do
> this READ_ONCE+WRITE_ONCE for each invididual field in a PASID entry.
You don't need READ_ONCE if there isn't another thread concurrently
writing, and WRITE_ONCE is pointless if the HW is promising not to
read it due to non-present.
> So while I agree it would be more more natural to build whole entries,
> and the existing way looks strange and not the most efficient, I'm
> wondering if it is causing any actual correctness issues (apart from
> those addressed by this series).
It prevents doing the replace operation, which is a correctness issue
for VMs.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-05 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-27 17:57 Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] iommu/vt-d: Sanitize set bits in pasid_set_bits() Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] iommu/vt-d: Generalize pasid_set_bits() Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context entry updates Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] iommu/vt-d: Use smp_wmb() before setting context/pasid present bit Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] iommu/vt-d: Use WRITE_ONCE for setting root table entries Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-05 18:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context & root entry updates Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-05 18:54 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-05 19:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-05 20:05 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-06 0:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-06 7:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-06 14:40 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-08 2:22 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-06 13:51 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-06 14:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-06 15:50 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-06 16:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-06 17:14 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-08 2:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-09 6:32 ` Baolu Lu
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2026-01-08 7:00 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-06 3:37 ` Baolu Lu
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