From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] coding-assistants: simplify attribution
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2026 09:29:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260702-sucht-bauabschnitt-rausspringen-577b7b7be2c7@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260701115302.29c66401@kernel.org>
On 2026-07-01 11:53 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 14:35:08 -0400 Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Wed, 2026-07-01 at 17:54 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > I remain very confused by our coding assistant contribution guidelines.
> > > I'm going to be a bit polemic now but this seriously in good faith.
> > >
> > > Why precisely do we require all this detailed information about what
> > > specific coding assistant was used?
> > >
> > > I find it very irritating that our git history has effectively started
> > > to function a bit like a free advertising platform for a bunch of AI
> > > companies and their proprietary agents and models.
>
> FWIW, this is exactly how I feel. I added a regex to strip these in
> my git hooks. So at least the net/ history should be ads-free 🤷️
Ah, that's good to know. I've been rewriting them to "LLM" but I might
just start doing what netdev is.
> > In general, collecting data for nebulous purposes usually turns out to
> > be a bad idea. If we're not 100% clear on why we want this data, then
> > we're probably better off not collecting it at all.
> >
> > With that in mind: if we're going to water down the tag, then I say
> > just remove the requirement altogether. If we later decide that we want
> > to start collecting more detailed info for some (clear) purpose then we
> > can revisit the idea.
>
> +1
>
> Honestly even tool attribution feels increasingly moot.
> People vibe code tools and AI-in-the-loop pipelines which they never
> publish. Open source tools are (hopefully?) used in pre-commit
> pipelines, so they have the "kbuild bot problem" of problems getting
> fixed before the code is merged. And we have the same free advertising
> problem for the rest.
Agreed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-02 7:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-01 15:54 Christian Brauner
2026-07-01 16:08 ` Mark Brown
2026-07-02 7:10 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 11:35 ` Mark Brown
2026-07-01 16:08 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-07-01 16:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 7:11 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 9:51 ` David Disseldorp
2026-07-01 16:10 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 7:27 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 7:46 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 8:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 8:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 10:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 11:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 12:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:41 ` Jani Nikula
2026-07-02 13:48 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 13:26 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 13:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-02 13:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 13:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 14:09 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 14:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 16:18 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 16:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 8:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 8:28 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 13:48 ` Carlos Maiolino
2026-07-02 9:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-01 18:35 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-01 18:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-07-02 7:29 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2026-07-02 7:28 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 8:12 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 8:44 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-02 9:09 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 9:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 9:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 9:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 9:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 11:57 ` Brian Foster
2026-07-02 12:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 13:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:47 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 13:09 ` Brian Foster
2026-07-02 13:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 10:34 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 12:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 12:39 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 12:53 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 10:27 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 11:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-02 13:40 ` Carlos Maiolino
2026-07-03 9:21 ` Ellie
2026-07-03 11:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 12:11 ` [PATCH RFC] coding-assistants: simplify attribution - WIPO recommendations also seem kind of worrying Ellie
[not found] ` <20f91215-f0db-4bb5-9ada-f3df33d78534@gmx.net>
2026-07-07 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC] coding-assistants: simplify attribution ckadr1
2026-07-07 19:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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