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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	 Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] coding-assistants: simplify attribution
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2026 09:29:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260702-sucht-bauabschnitt-rausspringen-577b7b7be2c7@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260701115302.29c66401@kernel.org>

On 2026-07-01 11:53 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 14:35:08 -0400 Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Wed, 2026-07-01 at 17:54 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > I remain very confused by our coding assistant contribution guidelines.
> > > I'm going to be a bit polemic now but this seriously in good faith.
> > > 
> > > Why precisely do we require all this detailed information about what
> > > specific coding assistant was used?
> > > 
> > > I find it very irritating that our git history has effectively started
> > > to function a bit like a free advertising platform for a bunch of AI
> > > companies and their proprietary agents and models.
> 
> FWIW, this is exactly how I feel. I added a regex to strip these in
> my git hooks. So at least the net/ history should be ads-free 🤷️

Ah, that's good to know. I've been rewriting them to "LLM" but I might
just start doing what netdev is.

> > In general, collecting data for nebulous purposes usually turns out to
> > be a bad idea. If we're not 100% clear on why we want this data, then
> > we're probably better off not collecting it at all.
> > 
> > With that in mind: if we're going to water down the tag, then I say
> > just remove the requirement altogether. If we later decide that we want
> > to start collecting more detailed info for some (clear) purpose then we
> > can revisit the idea.
> 
> +1
> 
> Honestly even tool attribution feels increasingly moot.
> People vibe code tools and AI-in-the-loop pipelines which they never
> publish. Open source tools are (hopefully?) used in pre-commit
> pipelines, so they have the "kbuild bot problem" of problems getting
> fixed before the code is merged. And we have the same free advertising
> problem for the rest.

Agreed.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-02  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-01 15:54 Christian Brauner
2026-07-01 16:08 ` Mark Brown
2026-07-02  7:10   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 11:35     ` Mark Brown
2026-07-01 16:08 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-07-01 16:12   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02  7:11   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02  9:51   ` David Disseldorp
2026-07-01 16:10 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02  7:27   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02  7:46     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02  8:10       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02  8:16         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 10:04       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 11:51         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 12:49           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:41             ` Jani Nikula
2026-07-02 13:48               ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 13:26           ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 13:35             ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-02 13:47             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 13:57             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 14:09               ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 14:46                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 16:18                   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 16:29                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02  8:08     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02  8:28       ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 13:48         ` Carlos Maiolino
2026-07-02  9:24   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-01 18:35 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-01 18:53   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-07-02  7:29     ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2026-07-02  7:28   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02  8:12 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02  8:44   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-02  9:09     ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02  9:39       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02  9:37     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02  9:38     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02  9:44       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 11:57         ` Brian Foster
2026-07-02 12:18           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:07             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 13:37               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:47                 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 13:09             ` Brian Foster
2026-07-02 13:25               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 10:34     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 12:23       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 12:39         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 12:53           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:23       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 10:27 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 11:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-02 13:40   ` Carlos Maiolino
2026-07-03  9:21 ` Ellie
2026-07-03 11:58   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 12:11     ` [PATCH RFC] coding-assistants: simplify attribution - WIPO recommendations also seem kind of worrying Ellie
     [not found] ` <20f91215-f0db-4bb5-9ada-f3df33d78534@gmx.net>
2026-07-07 18:55   ` [PATCH RFC] coding-assistants: simplify attribution ckadr1
2026-07-07 19:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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