From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Cristian Ciocaltea <cristian.ciocaltea@collabora.com>
Cc: "Dmitry Baryshkov" <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 02/39] drm/connector: Add caps-based HDMI connector init helper
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 15:44:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260716-mega-ocelot-of-foundation-e3bcf6@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45113534-94ad-4a0f-8014-c04e9ab67a26@collabora.com>
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 01:34:19PM +0300, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
> On 7/15/26 11:50 AM, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2026 at 01:27:37PM +0300, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
> >> On 7/8/26 1:11 PM, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
> >>> Hi Maxime,
> >>>
> >>> On 7/7/26 7:10 PM, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2026 at 10:31:55PM +0300, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Dmitry,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your quick review!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/3/26 5:05 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 05:46:15PM +0300, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
> >>>>>>> In preparation for adding HDMI 2.x source capabilities, introduce struct
> >>>>>>> drm_connector_hdmi_caps and a new drmm_connector_hdmi_init_with_caps()
> >>>>>>> helper.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The existing drmm_connector_hdmi_init() helper currently takes
> >>>>>>> individual capability arguments such as supported_formats and max_bpc.
> >>>>>>> Adding more HDMI-specific arguments to that function would not scale
> >>>>>>> well, so move those values into a dedicated capabilities structure and
> >>>>>>> implement the existing helper as a wrapper around the new caps-based
> >>>>>>> interface.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think, it was an intention of Maxime: make sure that every driver is
> >>>>>> forced to provide some values here. With the struct-based init it is
> >>>>>> easy to overlook or to ommit a value.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Agreed that the struct-based init loses the compile-time guarantee that every
> >>>>> argument is explicitly provided - that's a real downside.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd argue it's recoverable, though: the init helper validates the mandatory
> >>>>> fields, so a driver that omits a required value gets rejected at init time
> >>>>> rather than silently misconfigured. The "you must provide sane values" property
> >>>>> is expected to be preserved, just enforced at runtime instead of by the
> >>>>> compiler.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, I don't think we can win with C here. Rust might, but we're
> >>>> probably a long way from that.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The main motivation for the struct is scalability/maintainability as we add HDMI
> >>>>> 2.x capabilities: new fields go into the struct rather than growing the helper's
> >>>>> argument list, so existing callers don't need churny signature updates on every
> >>>>> extension.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> FWIW, in the previous revision we discussed addressing the concern with a
> >>>>> callback instead. Sadly, I had to discard that approach, as it proved not
> >>>>> flexible enough, e.g. drm_bridge_connector_init() computes caps dynamically, and
> >>>>> would have required either stateful callbacks, or storing redundant/temporary
> >>>>> cap data in driver-private structures just to satisfy the callback.
> >>>>
> >>>> I just realized something reviewing your patch: we don't necessarily
> >>>> need an extra argument or a callback, we can just put these fields into
> >>>> drm_hdmi_connector_funcs directly, and then validate them in init.
> >>>
> >>> If I understand correctly, we should drop the drm_connector_hdmi_caps struct
> >>> introduced by this patch and move all its fields into drm_hdmi_connector_funcs.
> >>>
> >>> In that case, how should we proceed with drmm_connector_hdmi_init()?
> >>
> >> Actually, this brings us to the callback issue: we cannot compute caps
> >> dynamically, as it only works with static data, since funcs is supposed to be
> >> immutable.
> >
> > Does it? The core and helpers must consider it immutable but it doesn't
> > have to. drm_bridge_connector for example could totally allocate it and
> > dynamically create it based on the bridge capabilities.
>
> If we take the VC4 case, is it fine to drop the const from the static
> drm_connector_hdmi_funcs to allow dynamically setting up supported_hdmi_ver and
> max_bpc in vc4_hdmi_connector_init()?
>
> static struct drm_connector_hdmi_funcs vc4_hdmi_hdmi_connector_funcs = {
> .tmds_char_rate_valid = vc4_hdmi_connector_clock_valid,
> ...
> }
>
> static int vc4_hdmi_connector_init()
> {
> ...
>
> if (vc4_hdmi->variant->supports_hdr)
> vc4_hdmi_hdmi_connector_funcs.max_bpc = 12;
>
> if (vc4_hdmi->variant->max_pixel_clock >= HDMI_2_0_TMDS_CHAR_RATE_MAX_HZ)
> vc4_hdmi_hdmi_connector_funcs.supported_hdmi_ver = HDMI_VERSION_2_0;
> else if (vc4_hdmi->variant->max_pixel_clock >= HDMI_1_3_TMDS_CHAR_RATE_MAX_HZ)
> vc4_hdmi_hdmi_connector_funcs.supported_hdmi_ver = HDMI_VERSION_1_3;
> ...
> }
No, but you don't have to do that either.
You have three cases:
- Rpi < 4 has max_bpc = 8, HDMI 1.4
- RPI 4 HDMI 0 and RPI 5 has max_bpc = 12, HDMI 2.0
- RPI 4 HDMI 1 has max_bpc = 12, HDMI 1.4
Just create three different structures, and put a pointer to the right
one in the vc4_hdmi_variant structure. There's no need to be dynamic
there.
Maxime
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Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-02 14:46 [PATCH v8 00/39] Add HDMI 2.0 support to DW HDMI QP TX Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 01/39] video/hdmi: Introduce HDMI version enum Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-03 13:55 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-07 11:54 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 02/39] drm/connector: Add caps-based HDMI connector init helper Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-03 14:05 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-03 19:31 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-07 16:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-08 10:11 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-10 10:27 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-15 8:50 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-15 10:34 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-16 13:44 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2026-07-16 14:27 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-15 8:49 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 03/39] drm/display: bridge_connector: Pass HDMI capabilities through caps struct Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-03 14:19 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-03 19:55 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-08 6:46 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-08 10:19 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 04/39] drm/connector: Add HDMI 2.0 scrambler infrastructure Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-03 14:34 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-03 20:54 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-07 12:30 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-08 10:34 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-09 19:25 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-13 8:50 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-13 10:23 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-15 8:55 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-15 10:46 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-16 13:50 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-16 15:07 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 05/39] drm/display: scdc-helper: Add macro for connector-prefixed debug messages Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 06/39] drm/display: scdc-helper: Add helper to set SCDC version information Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-07 15:40 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 07/39] drm/display: hdmi: Add HDMI 2.0 scrambling management helpers Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 08/39] drm/display: hdmi: Advertise SCDC source version when scrambling Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-07 15:26 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 09/39] drm/display: hdmi-state-helper: Add fallback TMDS rate validation Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-07 11:23 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-08 10:39 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 10/39] drm/display: hdmi-state-helper: Sync SCDC state on hotplug Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-07 11:31 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-08 11:21 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-15 8:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 11/39] drm/display: hdmi-state-helper: Set HDMI scrambling requirement Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-07 11:34 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 12/39] drm/bridge: Remove redundant error check in drm_bridge_helper_reset_crtc() Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 13/39] drm/bridge: Add bridge ops for source-side HDMI 2.0 scrambling Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 14/39] drm/display: bridge_connector: Use cached connector status in .get_modes() Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 15/39] drm/display: bridge_connector: Switch to .detect_ctx() connector helper Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 16/39] drm/display: bridge_connector: Wire up HDMI 2.0 scrambler callbacks Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 17/39] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi-qp: Rate limit i2c read error messages Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 18/39] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi-qp: Provide .{enable|disable}_hpd() PHY ops Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 19/39] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi-qp: Add HDMI 2.0 SCDC scrambling support Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 20/39] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi-qp: Provide dw_hdmi_qp_hpd_notify() helper Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 21/39] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi_qp: Add missing newlines in dev_err_probe() messages Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 22/39] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi_qp: Use local dev variable consistently in bind() Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 23/39] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi_qp: Drop unnecessary #include Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 24/39] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi_qp: Defer HPD IRQ enable until after connector setup Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 25/39] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi_qp: Mask RK3576 HPD IRQ in io_init Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 26/39] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi_qp: Implement .{enable|disable}_hpd() PHY ops Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 27/39] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi_qp: Use dw_hdmi_qp_hpd_notify() for HPD reports Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 28/39] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi-qp: Drop unused .setup_hpd() phy op Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 29/39] drm/vc4: hdmi: Use common TMDS char rate constants Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 30/39] drm/vc4: hdmi: Switch to drm_hdmi_mode_needs_scrambling() Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-07 12:43 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 31/39] drm/vc4: hdmi: Convert to common SCDC scrambling infrastructure Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-07 15:36 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-07-08 12:53 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 32/39] drm/tests: connector: Add HDMI caps-based init coverage Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 33/39] drm/tests: connector: Add HDMI source-side scrambler coverage Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 34/39] drm/tests: hdmi_state_helper: Use drmm_connector_hdmi_init_with_caps() Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 35/39] drm/tests: hdmi_state_helper: Add max_tmds_char_rate fallback tests Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 36/39] drm/tests: edid: Add 4K@60Hz EDID with 600MHz TMDS Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 37/39] drm/tests: hdmi_state_helper: Cover source-side scrambling decision Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 38/39] drm/tests: edid: Fix conformity for 1080p+4K YUV420 200MHz EDID Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 14:46 ` [PATCH v8 39/39] drm/tests: edid: Fix conformity for 4K RGB/YUV 340MHz EDID Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-02 15:31 ` [PATCH v8 00/39] Add HDMI 2.0 support to DW HDMI QP TX Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-07-06 8:33 ` Maud Spierings
2026-07-08 16:07 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
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