* [PATCH] mm/percpu: allow embed allocator when total size fits in vmalloc
@ 2026-07-17 23:16 Paul Sherman
2026-07-18 0:23 ` Andrew Morton
0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Paul Sherman @ 2026-07-17 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-mm; +Cc: tj, vbabka, dennis, akpm, linux-kernel, Paul Sherman
On large NUMA systems (e.g. 4-node 128GB), the physical span between
NUMA nodes may exceed 75% of vmalloc space even though the total percpu
allocation is tiny (e.g. ~6MB for 64 CPUs).
The 75% check was designed for pcpu_get_vm_areas() used by dynamic
percpu chunks, where vmalloc congruency is required. The embed
allocator uses the linear map directly for the first chunk -- physical
addresses are accessible as virtual addresses without vmalloc mapping.
The relevant constraint is total percpu size, not physical span.
Replace the unconditional fallback with a total-size check: if the
aggregate percpu allocation fits within 75% of vmalloc space, proceed
with embed regardless of physical NUMA span. Systems where total percpu
size genuinely exceeds the vmalloc bound retain the page allocator
fallback.
Tested on Sophgo SG2042 (64-hart, 4-NUMA, 128GB DDR4, RISC-V Sv39):
percpu: embed: span 0x17def7a000 > vmalloc 75% but total 0x5c0000
fits -- linear map used
percpu: Embedded 23 pages/cpu s54168 r8192 d31848 u94208
Link: https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1707.3/00337.html
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Paul Sherman <shermanpauldylan@gmail.com>
---
This fix is inert on systems where the original check never fired;
it only activates when physical span exceeds 75% of vmalloc but total
percpu size does not.
Architecture analysis:
Architecture | vmalloc | phys span | total percpu | result
---------------|--------------|--------------|--------------|--------
RISC-V Sv39 | ~88 GB | ~102 GB | ~6 MB | fixed
RISC-V Sv48 | ~88 TB | ~102 GB | ~6 MB | unaffected
RISC-V Sv57 | ~44 PB | ~102 GB | ~6 MB | unaffected
ARM64 large | ~248 TB | varies | tiny | unaffected
32-bit NUMA | ~128 MB | varies | may exceed | correct fallback
Tejun Heo noted in 2017 [Link] that the only constraint is vmalloc
size relative to NUMA node distances, and that making vmalloc bigger
would be the best fix. On RISC-V Sv39 with 88GB vmalloc and 102GB
physical NUMA span that is not an option -- but the embed allocator
does not need congruent vmalloc mapping for the first chunk anyway.
mm/percpu.c | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/mm/percpu.c b/mm/percpu.c
index b0676b8054ed..72695778872c 100644
--- a/mm/percpu.c
+++ b/mm/percpu.c
@@ -3069,13 +3069,32 @@ int __init pcpu_embed_first_chunk(size_t reserved_size, size_t dyn_size,
/* warn if maximum distance is further than 75% of vmalloc space */
if (max_distance > VMALLOC_TOTAL * 3 / 4) {
- pr_warn("max_distance=0x%lx too large for vmalloc space 0x%lx\n",
+ pr_warn("percpu: embed: max_distance=0x%lx too large for vmalloc space 0x%lx\n",
max_distance, VMALLOC_TOTAL);
#ifdef CONFIG_NEED_PER_CPU_PAGE_FIRST_CHUNK
- /* and fail if we have fallback */
- rc = -EINVAL;
- goto out_free_areas;
-#endif
+ /*
+ * The embed allocator uses the linear map directly for the
+ * first chunk -- physical addresses are accessible as virtual
+ * addresses without vmalloc mapping. The 75% check was designed
+ * for pcpu_get_vm_areas() (dynamic chunks) where vmalloc
+ * congruency is required. On large NUMA systems, physical span
+ * between nodes may exceed vmalloc bounds even though total
+ * percpu size is tiny. Check total size, not physical span.
+ */
+ {
+ unsigned long total_size = 0;
+ for (group = 0; group < ai->nr_groups; group++)
+ total_size += (unsigned long)ai->unit_size *
+ ai->groups[group].nr_units;
+ if (total_size > VMALLOC_TOTAL * 3 / 4) {
+ rc = -EINVAL;
+ goto out_free_areas;
+ }
+ pr_info("percpu: embed: span 0x%lx > vmalloc 75%%"
+ " but total 0x%lx fits -- linear map used\n",
+ max_distance, total_size);
+ }
+#endif /* CONFIG_NEED_PER_CPU_PAGE_FIRST_CHUNK */
}
/*
--
2.53.0
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* Re: [PATCH] mm/percpu: allow embed allocator when total size fits in vmalloc
2026-07-17 23:16 [PATCH] mm/percpu: allow embed allocator when total size fits in vmalloc Paul Sherman
@ 2026-07-18 0:23 ` Andrew Morton
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2026-07-18 0:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Sherman; +Cc: linux-mm, tj, vbabka, dennis, linux-kernel
On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 16:16:16 -0700 Paul Sherman <shermanpauldylan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On large NUMA systems (e.g. 4-node 128GB), the physical span between
> NUMA nodes may exceed 75% of vmalloc space even though the total percpu
> allocation is tiny (e.g. ~6MB for 64 CPUs).
>
> The 75% check was designed for pcpu_get_vm_areas() used by dynamic
> percpu chunks, where vmalloc congruency is required. The embed
> allocator uses the linear map directly for the first chunk -- physical
> addresses are accessible as virtual addresses without vmalloc mapping.
> The relevant constraint is total percpu size, not physical span.
>
> Replace the unconditional fallback with a total-size check: if the
> aggregate percpu allocation fits within 75% of vmalloc space, proceed
> with embed regardless of physical NUMA span. Systems where total percpu
> size genuinely exceeds the vmalloc bound retain the page allocator
> fallback.
>
> Tested on Sophgo SG2042 (64-hart, 4-NUMA, 128GB DDR4, RISC-V Sv39):
> percpu: embed: span 0x17def7a000 > vmalloc 75% but total 0x5c0000
> fits -- linear map used
> percpu: Embedded 23 pages/cpu s54168 r8192 d31848 u94208
Nicely presented patch, thanks.
> Link: https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1707.3/00337.html
> Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> Cc: Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Paul Sherman <shermanpauldylan@gmail.com>
> ---
>
> This fix is inert on systems where the original check never fired;
> it only activates when physical span exceeds 75% of vmalloc but total
> percpu size does not.
>
> Architecture analysis:
>
> Architecture | vmalloc | phys span | total percpu | result
> ---------------|--------------|--------------|--------------|--------
> RISC-V Sv39 | ~88 GB | ~102 GB | ~6 MB | fixed
> RISC-V Sv48 | ~88 TB | ~102 GB | ~6 MB | unaffected
> RISC-V Sv57 | ~44 PB | ~102 GB | ~6 MB | unaffected
> ARM64 large | ~248 TB | varies | tiny | unaffected
> 32-bit NUMA | ~128 MB | varies | may exceed | correct fallback
>
> Tejun Heo noted in 2017 [Link] that the only constraint is vmalloc
> size relative to NUMA node distances, and that making vmalloc bigger
> would be the best fix. On RISC-V Sv39 with 88GB vmalloc and 102GB
> physical NUMA span that is not an option -- but the embed allocator
> does not need congruent vmalloc mapping for the first chunk anyway.
I suggest all the above be moved above the "---" separator. It's
useful info for the permanent record. (And replace "[Link]" with "[1]"
in the usual fashion).
> mm/percpu.c | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> 1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
AI review asked a question:
https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260717231616.9126-1-shermanpauldylan@gmail.com
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