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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: "Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>
Cc: Zhan Xusheng <zhanxusheng1024@gmail.com>,
	tglx@kernel.org, luto@kernel.org, vincenzo.frascino@arm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, zhanxusheng@xiaomi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] vdso/math64: Add and use __iter_div64_u64_rem()
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2026 13:48:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260901134820.0c5b820b@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260901102036-f5a7282d-4d8f-4f4a-89b3-7a75c83582c0@linutronix.de>

On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 10:35:30 +0200
Thomas Weißschuh <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de> wrote:

> Hi Zhan,
> 
> thanks for the new version. However please slow down a bit with sending new
> revisions to give people time to respond.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 01, 2026 at 10:06:34AM +0800, Zhan Xusheng wrote:
> > The vDSO basetimes for CLOCK_MONOTONIC and CLOCK_BOOTTIME are kept in the
> > scaled nanoseconds of tkr_mono, so normalising them means dividing by
> > NSEC_PER_SEC << shift, which does not fit the u32 divisor of
> > __iter_div_u64_rem().
> > 
> > update_vdso_time_data() therefore open-codes the iterative division twice.
> > Turning the loops into a plain modulo is not an option either, as the vDSO
> > has no 64-bit division helpers on 32-bit.  
> 
> This is not vDSO userspace code, but on the kernel side.
> The problem is that divisions are unnecessarily slow.

Until you get to (on x86) zen3 or cannon lake when they drop to ~15 clocks.
(I think someone finally allocated a bit of silicon to integer divide.)

> Also a module alone would not be enough, as we need the division result.

Isn't the divisor constant? (or rather a constant shifted left some).
In that case you can do a 'multiply by reciprocal'.
The simple 'multiply an shift right 32' will give slightly low quotient.
But you need to calculate the remainder - so can fixup the overlarge
remainder it can generate.

Of course, even that is only worthwhile if the quotient is more than
(a guess) 4.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-01 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-01  2:06 [PATCH v3 0/3] vdso: Keep the CLOCK_AUX base at full precision Zhan Xusheng
2026-09-01  2:06 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] vdso/math64: Add and use __iter_div64_u64_rem() Zhan Xusheng
2026-09-01  8:35   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-09-01 12:48     ` David Laight [this message]
2026-09-01 13:05       ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-09-01  2:06 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] vdso/vsyscall: Keep the CLOCK_AUX base scaled Zhan Xusheng
2026-09-01  8:42   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-09-01  2:06 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] vdso/gettimeofday: Assert that the clock id fits the dispatch mask Zhan Xusheng

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