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From: Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>,
	paulmck@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/13] srcutree: Add reader-free fastpath to synchronize_srcu_atomic()
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 2026 11:35:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260909033546.2432205-1-kunwu.chan@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d4af6318ac67486858be1df8d436147b444a2d2.camel@infradead.org>

On Tue, 08 Sep 2026 23:26:06 +0100 David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2026-09-08 at 13:29 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 07, 2026 at 03:58:19PM +0800, Kunwu Chan wrote:
> > > From: Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>
> > > 
> > > synchronize_srcu_atomic() is restricted to srcu_read_lock_atomic() and
> > > srcu_read_unlock_atomic(), whose read-side critical sections disable
> > > preemption.  In the common case where there are no readers at all, the
> > > grace period therefore need not do the index flip.  Add a fastpath
> > > that sums both ranks of the per-CPU ->srcu_ctrs[] counters and, if the
> > > lock counts match the unlock counts on both ranks, ends the grace
> > > period immediately, skipping the srcu_advance_state() scans, mirroring
> > > the similar Tiny SRCU fastpath.
> > > 
> > > Correctness requires the counter-sum proof to follow the grace-period
> > > anchor written by srcu_gp_start(); placing it before the anchor could
> > > let this grace period miss a pre-existing reader and return without
> > > waiting for it.  The smp_mb() between the unlock and lock sums pairs
> > > with the smp_mb() in __srcu_read_lock().  The grace period is ended
> > > manually under ->lock and ->srcu_atomic_gp_flag.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>
> > 
> > Adding David Woodhouse on CC.
> > 
> > David, does this provide appropriate performance in your use case?
> 
> Compared with the early bail that I had before, there's a *slight*
> shift into the higher-latency buckets as expected, but definitely not
> enough that I care. We're doing this whole thing to eliminate the
> multi-millisecond p100 latencies that happen when we invoke the
> workqueue, and the differences we're looking at in the table below are
> *well* below what we care about:
> 
> 
>   ┌─────────────┬───────────────────┬───────────────────┬───────┐
>   │   bucket    │  try-first (#10)  │    Kunwu (#11)    │   Δ   │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [0,1µs)     │ 5,338,474 (60.8%) │ 4,953,657 (56.8%) │ −7%   │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [1,2)       │ 1,077,998         │ 1,087,133         │ ≈     │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [2,4)       │ 803,244           │ 790,489           │ ≈     │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [4,8)       │ 811,708           │ 880,673           │ +8%   │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [8,16)      │ 366,183           │ 597,443           │ +63%  │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [16,32)     │ 338,731           │ 361,243           │ +7%   │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [32,64)     │ 14,290            │ 28,823            │ ×2.0  │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [64,128)    │ 2,549             │ 3,655             │ +43%  │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [128,256)   │ 555               │ 783               │ +41%  │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [256,512)   │ 456               │ 625               │ +37%  │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ [512µs+)    │ 13                │ 8                 │ ≈     │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ max         │ 1.07ms            │ 1.56ms            │ +46%  │
>   ├─────────────┼───────────────────┼───────────────────┼───────┤
>   │ total walks │ 8,777,514         │ 8,723,453         │ −0.6% │
>   └─────────────┴───────────────────┴───────────────────┴───────┘
> 
>   (192-CPU PREEMPT_RT host, 12 concurrent gfn_to_pfn_cache invalidation
>   reproducers, 300-second windows; each "walk" is one invalidation drain
>   which includes the synchronize_srcu_atomic() call. #10/#11 are just
>   local build numbers.)
> 

Thanks, David, for testing this with your KVM workload and confirming 
the current approach works well.

I’ll keep looking into the fastpath for synchronize_srcu_expedited() 
as well, while preserving the existing SRCU semantics.

Thanks,
KunWu


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-09  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-07  7:58 [PATCH 00/13] srcu: Round out atomic SRCU support Kunwu Chan
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 01/13] litmus: Add SRCU fastpath anchor-before-scan test Kunwu Chan
2026-09-08 23:58   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-09  3:02     ` Kunwu Chan
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 02/13] litmus: Add SRCU fastpath scan-before-anchor test Kunwu Chan
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 03/13] srcutree: Add reader-free fastpath to synchronize_srcu_atomic() Kunwu Chan
2026-09-08 20:29   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-08 21:13     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-08 21:54       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-08 22:09         ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-08 22:55           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-08 22:26     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-08 22:53       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-08 22:56         ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-08 23:34           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-09  3:35       ` Kunwu Chan [this message]
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 04/13] rcutorture: Add atomic-SRCU support to torture.sh Kunwu Chan
2026-09-08 23:34   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-09 22:35     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-10  1:30       ` KunWu Chan
2026-09-10  3:47         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-10  4:31           ` KunWu Chan
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 05/13] srcutree: Honor is_atomic in check_init_srcu_struct() Kunwu Chan
2026-09-08 20:27   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 06/13] srcutree: Make init_srcu_struct_atomic() prevent transition to big Kunwu Chan
2026-09-08 23:36   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-09  2:34     ` Kunwu Chan
2026-09-10  0:08       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 07/13] srcutree: Don't transition atomic SRCU to big in srcu_gp_end() Kunwu Chan
2026-09-08 23:38   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-09  2:45     ` Kunwu Chan
2026-09-10  0:13       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-10  3:18         ` KunWu Chan
2026-09-10  3:46           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-10  4:27             ` KunWu Chan
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 08/13] srcutree: Forbid srcu_expedite_current() on atomic SRCU Kunwu Chan
2026-09-08 23:43   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 09/13] rcutorture: Disable srcu_expedite_current() for " Kunwu Chan
2026-09-08 23:48   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 10/13] srcutree: Skip callback scheduling for atomic SRCU grace periods Kunwu Chan
2026-09-09  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 11/13] srcutree: Remove srcu_barrier() sleep for atomic SRCU Kunwu Chan
2026-09-09  0:05   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 12/13] srcutree: Remove debug pr_alert()s Kunwu Chan
2026-09-09  0:06   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 13/13] srcu: Restrict atomic-SRCU non_block annotation to task context Kunwu Chan
2026-09-09  0:11   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-10 12:16 ` [PATCH 00/13] srcu: Round out atomic SRCU support Zqiang
2026-09-11  2:31   ` KunWu Chan

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