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From: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
To: Rong Zhang <i@rong.moe>
Cc: "Pavel Machek" <pavel@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
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	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Pearson" <mpearson-lenovo@squebb.ca>,
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	"Hans de Goede" <hansg@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/12] leds: trigger: Add led_trigger_notify_hw_control_changed() interface
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 16:45:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260910154506.GH1051768@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260902-leds-trigger-hw-changed-v6-9-55693cd78877@rong.moe>

On Wed, 02 Sep 2026, Rong Zhang wrote:

> Some hardware can autonomously activate/deactivate hardware control.
> After that, the LED hardware notifies the LED driver. Currently, there
> is no mechanism for LED drivers to notify the LED core about such events
> and initiate a trigger transition to reflect the hardware state.
> 
> Add a new interface called led_trigger_notify_hw_control_changed(), so
> that LED drivers can call it to notify the LED core about the
> transition.
> 
> The interface only allows two transitions:
> 
> 1. "none" => private trigger
> 2. private trigger => "none"
> 
> If the current trigger is neither the private trigger nor "none", no
> transition will be made. This protects the currently selected software
> trigger.
> 
> Note that LED_OFF won't be emitted during the #2 transition, as some
> hardware may have selected a new brightness level during its hardware
> state transition (e.g., laptop keyboards with a shortcut cycling through
> different backlight brightnesses and auto mode).
> 
> The interface is designed as a void function as any failure should be
> non-fatal and the result of transition should not have any impact on the
> LED drivers' event handling procedures.
> 
> To use the interface, the config LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED must be
> enabled, and the LED driver must set the LED_TRIG_HW_CHANGED flag for
> the classdev.
> 
> By default, the config is enabled when LEDS_BRIGHTNESS_HW_CHANGED is
> enabled.
> 
> Acked-by: Ike Panhc <ikepanhc@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Rong Zhang <i@rong.moe>
> ---
> Changes in v6:
> - Implement workqueue deferal mechanism
>   - https://msgid.link/e2b081dfd8f96511a73b86ab3ec75e5cd759b79b.camel@rong.moe
> 
> Changes in v5:
> - Address a concern from Sashiko:
>   - led_trigger_notify_hw_control_changed() might sleep, but without any
>     internal deferral mechanism or annotation
>   - Annotate the method with might_sleep(), since the very first users
>     of the interface, i.e., ideapad-laptop and (supposedly)
>     thinkpad_acpi, will call the interface from work contexts. It does
>     not deserve the overhead of internal deferral mechanism
>   - https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260802-leds-trigger-hw-changed-v4-0-f97e2ca976fe@rong.moe?part=9
> 
> Changes in v4:
> - Enable LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED by default when
>   LEDS_BRIGHTNESS_HW_CHANGED is enabled
> 
> Changes in v3:
> - Adopt guard() (Thanks Thomas Weißschuh)
> - Reword documentations
> ---
>  Documentation/leds/leds-class.rst |  52 ++++++++++++++++++
>  drivers/leds/led-class.c          |   6 +++
>  drivers/leds/led-triggers.c       | 108 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  drivers/leds/leds.h               |   8 +++
>  drivers/leds/trigger/Kconfig      |  10 ++++
>  include/linux/leds.h              |  13 +++++
>  6 files changed, 195 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/leds/leds-class.rst b/Documentation/leds/leds-class.rst
> index 2d41a6db602c..adbc57b9f49c 100644
> --- a/Documentation/leds/leds-class.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/leds/leds-class.rst
> @@ -334,6 +334,58 @@ not necessary for them to coordinate via `hw_control_*` callbacks.
>  When the LED is in hw control, no software blink is possible and doing so
>  will effectively disable hw control.
>  
> +Hardware-initiated trigger transition
> +=====================================
> +
> +Some hardware can autonomously activate/deactivate hardware control. After that,
> +the LED hardware notifies the LED driver.
> +
> +If the driver can detect such transitions and thus wants to notify the LED core
> +to update the current trigger then the `LED_TRIG_HW_CHANGED` flag must be set in
> +flags before registering. To update the current trigger accordingly, call
> +`led_trigger_notify_hw_control_changed` on the LED classdev.
> +
> +This capability is restricted to the LED device's private trigger. The private
> +trigger must have been properly registered (see above) and named after
> +`hw_control_trigger`.
> +
> +Only two transitions are defined:
> +
> +- "none" => private trigger:
> +        This happens when the hardware autonomously activates hardware control
> +        and when "none" (i.e., no trigger) is currently active. If the private
> +        trigger is already active when the method is called, this is essentially
> +        a no-op.
> +
> +        The activation sequence for the private trigger will be executed as
> +        normal.
> +
> +        The LED driver and its private trigger must be able to handle the
> +        activation sequence even if the hardware is currently in hardware
> +        control.
> +
> +        If error occurs in the activation sequence, the LED Trigger core reverts
> +        the effective trigger to "none".
> +
> +- private trigger => "none"
> +        This happens when the hardware autonomously deactivates hardware control
> +        and when the private trigger is currently active. If "none" (i.e., no
> +        trigger) is active when the method is called, this is essentially a
> +        no-op.
> +
> +        The deactivation sequence for the private trigger will be executed as
> +        normal, except that the current LED brightness is retained. The reason
> +        for keeping the brightness unchanged is that some hardware may choose a
> +        specific brightness instead of simply turning off the LED after
> +        autonomously deactivating hardware control.
> +
> +        The LED driver and its private trigger must be able to handle the
> +        deactivation sequence even if the hardware is not currently in hardware
> +        control.
> +
> +If the current trigger is neither the private trigger nor "none", no transition
> +will be made.
> +
>  Known Issues
>  ============
>  
> diff --git a/drivers/leds/led-class.c b/drivers/leds/led-class.c
> index 7e571bd1de5b..3b438d8da5e0 100644
> --- a/drivers/leds/led-class.c
> +++ b/drivers/leds/led-class.c
> @@ -611,6 +611,9 @@ int led_classdev_register_ext(struct device *parent,
>  	led_trigger_set_default(led_cdev);
>  #endif
>  
> +	if (led_cdev->flags & LED_TRIG_HW_CHANGED)
> +		led_trigger_init_hw_changed(led_cdev);
> +
>  	mutex_unlock(&led_cdev->led_access);
>  
>  	dev_dbg(parent, "Registered led device: %s\n",
> @@ -631,6 +634,9 @@ void led_classdev_unregister(struct led_classdev *led_cdev)
>  	if (IS_ERR_OR_NULL(led_cdev->dev))
>  		return;
>  
> +	if (led_cdev->flags & LED_TRIG_HW_CHANGED)
> +		led_trigger_destroy_hw_changed(led_cdev);
> +
>  #ifdef CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGERS
>  	down_write(&led_cdev->trigger_lock);
>  	if (led_cdev->trigger)
> diff --git a/drivers/leds/led-triggers.c b/drivers/leds/led-triggers.c
> index cb49a02a8b3c..a9d992a88616 100644
> --- a/drivers/leds/led-triggers.c
> +++ b/drivers/leds/led-triggers.c
> @@ -7,7 +7,9 @@
>   * Author: Richard Purdie <rpurdie@openedhand.com>
>   */
>  
> +#include <linux/bug.h>
>  #include <linux/cleanup.h>
> +#include <linux/compiler.h>
>  #include <linux/export.h>
>  #include <linux/kernel.h>
>  #include <linux/list.h>
> @@ -193,7 +195,8 @@ ssize_t led_trigger_read(struct file *filp, struct kobject *kobj,
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(led_trigger_read);
>  
>  /* Caller must ensure led_cdev->trigger_lock held */
> -int led_trigger_set(struct led_classdev *led_cdev, struct led_trigger *trig)
> +static int __led_trigger_set(struct led_classdev *led_cdev, struct led_trigger *trig,
> +			     bool hw_triggered)
>  {
>  	char *event = NULL;
>  	char *envp[2];
> @@ -224,7 +227,21>  		led_cdev->trigger_data = NULL;
>  		led_cdev->activated = false;
>  		led_cdev->flags &= ~LED_INIT_DEFAULT_TRIGGER;
> -		led_set_brightness(led_cdev, LED_OFF);
> +
> +		/*
> +		 * Hardware may have selected a new brightness level during its
> +		 * hardware control transition, so only reset brightness if we
> +		 * are switching to another trigger or if the switching is not
> +		 * hardware triggered.
> +		 *
> +		 * Note that this does not apply to the error path, as running
> +		 * into the error path implies a none => private trigger
> +		 * transition. This hints that the LED driver and its private
> +		 * trigger must have some fundamental bugs, so don't bother

"don't bother" sounds abrasive.  Please reword.

> +		 * leaving the LED in an undefined state.
> +		 */
> +		if (trig || !hw_triggered)
> +			led_set_brightness(led_cdev, LED_OFF);
>  	}
>  	if (trig) {
>  		spin_lock(&trig->leddev_list_lock);
> @@ -288,6 +305,11 @@ int led_trigger_set(struct led_classdev *led_cdev, struct led_trigger *trig)
>  
>  	return ret;
>  }
> +
> +int led_trigger_set(struct led_classdev *led_cdev, struct led_trigger *trig)
> +{
> +	return __led_trigger_set(led_cdev, trig, false);
> +}
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(led_trigger_set);
>  
>  void led_trigger_remove(struct led_classdev *led_cdev)
> @@ -468,6 +490,88 @@ int devm_led_trigger_register(struct device *dev,
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(devm_led_trigger_register);
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED
> +
> +static void led_trigger_do_hw_control_transition(struct led_classdev *led_cdev, bool activate,
> +						 struct led_trigger *hc_trig)
> +{
> +	int err = 0;

'ret' is used in this file.

> +
> +	if (!led_cdev->trigger) {
> +		/* "none" => private trigger. */
> +		if (activate)
> +			err = __led_trigger_set(led_cdev, hc_trig, true);
> +	} else if (led_cdev->trigger == hc_trig) {
> +		/* private trigger => "none". */
> +		if (!activate)
> +			err = __led_trigger_set(led_cdev, NULL, true);
> +	} else {
> +		/* Other trigger is active. */
> +		dev_dbg(led_cdev->dev,
> +			"Ignoring hw control transition (%s %s) while %s is active",
> +			activate ? "activate" : "deactivate", hc_trig->name,
> +			led_cdev->trigger->name);
> +
> +		return;
> +	}
> +
> +	if (err)
> +		dev_warn(led_cdev->dev, "Failed to %s %s in hw control transition: %d",
> +			 activate ? "activate" : "deactivate", hc_trig->name, err);

How helpful are these debug messages now development is complete, really?

> +}
> +
> +static void led_trigger_hw_control_changed_worker(struct work_struct *work)
> +{
> +	struct led_classdev *led_cdev =
> +		container_of(work, struct led_classdev, triggers_hw_changed_work);
> +	bool activate = READ_ONCE(led_cdev->triggers_hw_changed);
> +
> +	scoped_guard(rwsem_read, &triggers_list_lock) {
> +		struct led_trigger *trig;
> +
> +		list_for_each_entry(trig, &trigger_list, next_trig) {
> +			if (trig->trigger_type == led_cdev->trigger_type &&
> +			    !strcmp(trig->name, led_cdev->hw_control_trigger)) {
> +				guard(rwsem_write)(&led_cdev->trigger_lock);
> +
> +				led_trigger_do_hw_control_transition(led_cdev, activate, trig);
> +				return;
> +			}
> +		}
> +	}
> +
> +	dev_err(led_cdev->dev,
> +		"%s() is called, but the private trigger (%s) is not properly registered\n",
> +		__func__, led_cdev->hw_control_trigger);

Please make all user-facing messages user-friendly.

No internal function names please.

Also, since this is effectively an issue, it should be dev_warn().

> +}
> +
> +void led_trigger_notify_hw_control_changed(struct led_classdev *led_cdev, bool activate)
> +{
> +	/* Restricted to private triggers. */
> +	if (WARN_ON(!(led_cdev->flags & LED_TRIG_HW_CHANGED) ||
> +		    !led_cdev->hw_control_trigger || !led_cdev->trigger_type))
> +		return;
> +
> +	WRITE_ONCE(led_cdev->triggers_hw_changed, activate);
> +
> +	schedule_work(&led_cdev->triggers_hw_changed_work);
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(led_trigger_notify_hw_control_changed);
> +
> +void led_trigger_init_hw_changed(struct led_classdev *led_cdev)
> +{
> +	INIT_WORK(&led_cdev->triggers_hw_changed_work, led_trigger_hw_control_changed_worker);
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(led_trigger_init_hw_changed);

Where is this exported to?

> +
> +void led_trigger_destroy_hw_changed(struct led_classdev *led_cdev)
> +{
> +	disable_work_sync(&led_cdev->triggers_hw_changed_work);
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(led_trigger_destroy_hw_changed);

This to?

> +
> +#endif /* CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED */
> +
>  /* Simple LED Trigger Interface */
>  
>  void led_trigger_event(struct led_trigger *trig,
> diff --git a/drivers/leds/leds.h b/drivers/leds/leds.h
> index b08a289397e4..bdac2336012e 100644
> --- a/drivers/leds/leds.h
> +++ b/drivers/leds/leds.h
> @@ -33,4 +33,12 @@ ssize_t trigger_may_offload_show(struct device *dev,
>  extern struct rw_semaphore leds_list_lock;
>  extern struct list_head leds_list;
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED
> +void led_trigger_init_hw_changed(struct led_classdev *led_cdev);
> +void led_trigger_destroy_hw_changed(struct led_classdev *led_cdev);
> +#else /* !CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED */
> +static inline void led_trigger_init_hw_changed(struct led_classdev *led_cdev) { }
> +static inline void led_trigger_destroy_hw_changed(struct led_classdev *led_cdev) { }
> +#endif /* CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED */
> +
>  #endif	/* __LEDS_H_INCLUDED */
> diff --git a/drivers/leds/trigger/Kconfig b/drivers/leds/trigger/Kconfig
> index c11282a74b5a..a11d04ce4ab2 100644
> --- a/drivers/leds/trigger/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/leds/trigger/Kconfig
> @@ -9,6 +9,16 @@ menuconfig LEDS_TRIGGERS
>  
>  if LEDS_TRIGGERS
>  
> +config LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED
> +	bool "LED hardware-initiated trigger transition support"
> +	default LEDS_BRIGHTNESS_HW_CHANGED
> +	help
> +	  This option enables support for hardware initiated hardware control
> +	  transitions, where the LED hardware autonomously switches between
> +	  "none" (i.e., no trigger) and its private trigger.
> +
> +	  See Documentation/leds/leds-class.rst for details.
> +
>  config LEDS_TRIGGER_TIMER
>  	tristate "LED Timer Trigger"
>  	help
> diff --git a/include/linux/leds.h b/include/linux/leds.h
> index bee2b4309a09..93b3fd7e5636 100644
> --- a/include/linux/leds.h
> +++ b/include/linux/leds.h
> @@ -109,6 +109,7 @@ struct led_classdev {
>  #define LED_INIT_DEFAULT_TRIGGER BIT(23)
>  #define LED_REJECT_NAME_CONFLICT BIT(24)
>  #define LED_MULTI_COLOR		BIT(25)
> +#define LED_TRIG_HW_CHANGED	BIT(26)
>  
>  	/* set_brightness_work / blink_timer flags, atomic, private. */
>  	unsigned long		work_flags;
> @@ -239,6 +240,11 @@ struct led_classdev {
>  	struct kernfs_node	*brightness_hw_changed_kn;
>  #endif
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED
> +	bool			triggers_hw_changed;
> +	struct work_struct	triggers_hw_changed_work;
> +#endif
> +
>  	/* Ensures consistent access to the LED class device */
>  	struct mutex		led_access;
>  };
> @@ -609,6 +615,13 @@ led_trigger_get_brightness(const struct led_trigger *trigger)
>  
>  #endif /* CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGERS */
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGERS_HW_CHANGED
> +void led_trigger_notify_hw_control_changed(struct led_classdev *led_cdev, bool activate);
> +#else
> +static inline void led_trigger_notify_hw_control_changed(struct led_classdev *led_cdev,
> +							 bool activate) {}
> +#endif
> +
>  /* Trigger specific enum */
>  enum led_trigger_netdev_modes {
>  	TRIGGER_NETDEV_LINK = 0,
> 
> -- 
> 2.55.0
> 

-- 
Lee Jones

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-10 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-01 18:09 [PATCH v6 00/12] leds: Add support for hardware-initiated hardware control trigger transition Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] leds: class: Always protect brightness_show() with led_access Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] leds: Move led_trigger_is_hw_controlled() to the right place Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] leds: class: Remove hardware control trigger when writing brightness Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] leds: trigger: Add offloaded() callback and provide trigger_may_offload attribute Rong Zhang
2026-09-10 15:05   ` Lee Jones
2026-09-10 18:01     ` Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] leds: cros_ec: Implement offloaded() trigger callback Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] leds: turris-omnia: Implement offloaded() trigger callback and declare hw_control_trigger Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] leds: trigger: netdev: Implement offloaded() callback Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] leds: trigger: Enforce strict checks in led_trigger_is_hw_controlled() Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] leds: trigger: Add led_trigger_notify_hw_control_changed() interface Rong Zhang
2026-09-10 15:45   ` Lee Jones [this message]
2026-09-10 18:17     ` Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] platform/x86: ideapad-laptop: Serialize keyboard backlight tracking Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] platform/x86: ideapad-laptop: Decouple hardware & classdev brightness for keyboard backlight Rong Zhang
2026-09-01 18:09 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] platform/x86: ideapad-laptop: Fully support auto " Rong Zhang

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