mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: "Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	"kernel list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] futex: scheduling-while-atomic because nested vfork can break guard(private_hash)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2026 11:04:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260911090447.GT788244@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260911083639.GX776954@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 10:36:39AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 05:27:54PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:

> > Impact, related issues
> > ==========
> > futex_wait_multiple_setup() follows the same pattern of using
> > guard(private_hash)(current->mm) to ensure that a later CLASS(hbr,
> > hbr)(&q->key) won't sleep and is probably affected by the same issue.
> > 
> > __futex_unlock_pi() and requeue_pi_wake_futex() also use
> > futex_private_hash(), but there the race seems benign.
> > 
> > This issue also means that different futex users could disagree about
> > the hash bucket that a private futex belongs in (older futex_hash()
> > calls returning a pointer into the global hash, newer futex_hash()
> > calls returning a pointer into the private hash).
> 
> Right, that transition is not supposed to be possible. Notably a single
> thread cannot have (private) futex waiters, and we allocate the private
> hash on cloning the second thread.
> 
> > Sidenote
> > ========
> > Maybe we should block CLONE_VFORK when current->vfork_done!=NULL ? It
> > is clearly bad to allow nested vfork() such that a SIGKILL can cause
> > two threads to run concurrently on the same userspace stack.
> > 
> > But I'm not sure if that's a good fix for these futex issues - a fix
> > that doesn't rely on such distant assumptions might be nicer...
> 
> So need_futex_hash_allocate_default() is explicitly excluding vfork from
> causing a private hash to be allocated. Perhaps we should fix that.
> 
> I need more thinking (and wake-up juice) to see if that might perhaps
> bring other problems with it.

So I can confirm that the below does in fact cure your testcase.

Per commit: ee9dce44362b ("futex: Drop CLONE_THREAD requirement for private default hash alloc")
the reason for excluding vfork() was performance and thinking this
would/could not matter, which you've proven to be clearly false.

Thomas?


---
 kernel/fork.c | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/kernel/fork.c b/kernel/fork.c
index 416758c8a3d4..bc32ea19099e 100644
--- a/kernel/fork.c
+++ b/kernel/fork.c
@@ -1996,9 +1996,9 @@ static bool need_futex_hash_allocate_default(u64 clone_flags)
 {
 	/*
 	 * Allocate a default futex hash for any sibling that will
-	 * share the parent's mm, except vfork.
+	 * share the parent's mm.
 	 */
-	return (clone_flags & (CLONE_VM | CLONE_VFORK)) == CLONE_VM;
+	return clone_flags & CLONE_VM;
 }
 
 /*

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-11  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-10 15:27 Jann Horn
2026-09-11  8:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-11  9:04   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-09-11 11:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-11 15:28       ` Jann Horn
2026-09-11 17:51         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2026-09-11 15:31   ` Jann Horn

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20260911090447.GT788244@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net \
    --to=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=andrealmeid@igalia.com \
    --cc=dave@stgolabs.net \
    --cc=dvhart@infradead.org \
    --cc=imv4bel@gmail.com \
    --cc=jannh@google.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=tglx@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®