From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Cc: "Adrián Larumbe" <adrian.larumbe@collabora.com>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
"Faith Ekstrand" <faith.ekstrand@collabora.com>,
"Marty E. Plummer" <hanetzer@startmail.com>,
"Tomeu Vizoso" <tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net>,
"Eric Anholt" <eric@anholt.net>,
"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"Philipp Zabel" <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Collabora Kernel Team" <kernel@collabora.com>,
"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 12/15] drm/panfrost: Skip cache flush/invalidate when enabling perfcnt
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 18:57:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261005185738.010bc483@fedora-61.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37422c77-ecdc-46a0-8896-3a5098417426@arm.com>
On Mon, 5 Oct 2026 17:05:14 +0100
Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com> wrote:
> On 05/10/2026 16:37, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Oct 2026 16:06:02 +0100
> > Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/10/2026 09:38, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 2 Oct 2026 16:14:38 +0100
> >>> Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 29/09/2026 04:44, Adrián Larumbe wrote:
> >>>>> The GPU cache flush/invalidate operation is unnecessary. First off, the
> >>>>> GPU doesn't read off the perfcnt sample buffer, only writes into it, so
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think this is entirely true. The GPU performance counter unit
> >>>> only writes the counters that are enabled, counters that share a cache
> >>>> line but are not enabled are not written by the performance counter
> >>>> unit, but if the L2 contains that cache line then the write can hit in
> >>>> the L2 and dirty the entire line including stale data where the
> >>>> unwritten cache line is.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think this can happen though, because _enable_locked() is
> >>> creating a BO (and its GPU mapping) just before enabling the perfcnt
> >>> block, meaning the buffer is known to have no dirty cacheline pointing
> >>> to it until the first dump happens. And we do flush and invalidate GPU
> >>> caches after each dump, so again, we should be covered.
> >>
> >> The situation isn't actually a dirty cache line at the start, but a
> >> stale one. We start off with the memory matching a clean line in the
> >> GPU's cache. But because we don't have coherency the clean line can stay
> >> even if it's inconsistent with everything else.
> >>
> >> CPU | GPU | Memory
> >> ----------------+-----------------------+--------------------
> >> | clean line | matches GPU cache
> >> ----------------+-----------------------+--------------------
> >> CPU allocates new buffer and writes zeros
> >> ----------------+-----------------------+--------------------
> >> Dirty cache line| stale clean line | unknown (cache line
> >> | | might be evicted)
> >> ----------------+-----------------------+--------------------
> >> CPU cleans its own cache to memory
> >> ----------------+-----------------------+--------------------
> >> Potential clean | stale clean line | Matches CPU
> >> cache line | |
> >> ----------------+-----------------------+--------------------
> >> Start dump without invaliding GPU
> >> ----------------+-----------------------+--------------------
> >> Potential clean | GPU writes data, and | Unknown
> >> cache line | hits in the clean line|
> >> | even though it's stale|
> >> ----------------+-----------------------+--------------------
> >> CPU flushes the GPU's cache and invalidates it's own
> >> ----------------+-----------------------+--------------------
> >> No-cache line | writes out clean line | Matches GPU
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course for the GPU to have ended up with that stale clean cache line
> >> means that the physical memory was previously used for something else on
> >> the GPU, so the newly allocated BO has to reuse memory from a previous
> >> BO that the GPU has accessed. And it's all "unlikely" due to the small
> >> size of the GPU's cache.
> >
> > Hm, I'd say it's actually impossible because every unmap operation is
> > followed by a flush+inval of the GPU L2 and LSC, so for this stale
> > clean line to exist on the GPU side when a physical page is GPU-mapped
> > again, it would take a bug in the unmap logic or in the MMU HW, I
> > think. Am I missing something?
>
> Ah, yes that's true :) Although there's no need for us to do an
> invalidate on the unmap path...
My bad, I'm confusing Panfrost and Panthor here. There's indeed no L2
flush+inval on unmap in Panfrost. We do have an L2 flush+inval on map
(FLUSH_PT) that should cover this case though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-05 16:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-29 3:44 [PATCH v12 00/15] Collection of fixes for Panfrost: Perfcnt, RPM, refactorings Adrián Larumbe
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 01/15] drm/panfrost: Move shrinker initialization and unplug one level down Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 13:58 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 02/15] drm/panfrost: Move lock and modparam initialisations into their subsystems Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 14:06 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 03/15] drm/panfrost: Move debugfs initialisation to relevant subsystems Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 14:10 ` Steven Price
2026-10-06 0:50 ` Adrián Larumbe
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 04/15] drm/panfrost: Skip NULL checks for clock enable/disabling Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 14:14 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 05/15] drm/panfrost: Consolidate device clock management and reset Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 14:20 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 06/15] drm/panfrost: Fix PM refcnt and autosuspend issues at device probe/remove Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 14:21 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 07/15] drm/panfrost: Explicitly enable MMU interrupts at device init Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 14:26 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 08/15] drm/panfrost: Move all DRM device initialisation into device_init() Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 14:37 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 09/15] drm/panfrost: Add warning messages to fatal error conditions Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 14:59 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 10/15] drm/panfrost: Add debugfs knob for manually triggering a GPU reset Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 15:10 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 11/15] drm/panfrost: Move perfcnt GPU disable sequence into a helper Adrián Larumbe
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 12/15] drm/panfrost: Skip cache flush/invalidate when enabling perfcnt Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 15:14 ` Steven Price
2026-10-05 8:38 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-10-05 15:06 ` Steven Price
2026-10-05 15:37 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-10-05 16:05 ` Steven Price
2026-10-05 16:57 ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 13/15] drm/panfrost: Avoid cache flush after perfcnt sample in fully coherent systems Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 15:28 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 14/15] drm/panfrost: Introduce a reset lock Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 15:34 ` Steven Price
2026-09-29 3:44 ` [PATCH v12 15/15] drm/panfrost: Fix races between perfcnt and reset sequence Adrián Larumbe
2026-10-02 15:44 ` Steven Price
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