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* [PATCH 0/2] fs: don't let idle threads pin the initramfs
@ 2026-10-12 22:11 Christian Brauner
  2026-10-12 22:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: pass flags to copy_fs() Christian Brauner
  2026-10-12 22:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: let idle threads share init_fs Christian Brauner
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Christian Brauner @ 2026-10-12 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-fsdevel
  Cc: Jan Kara, Al Viro, linux-kernel, Christian Brauner (Amutable)

Since v7.0 nullfs is the real rootfs and userspace can pivot_root() away
from the initramfs and unmount it. systemd does exactly that and the
initramfs is supposed to be freed afterwards. But it isn't (cf. [1]).
The unpacked initramfs stays around forever. It shows up as Unevictable
in /proc/meminfo with ramfs and as Shmem with tmpfs. In the reports
that's between 70MB and 150MB.

Two things keep it alive and neither is visible from userspace:

(1) On v7.0 to v7.2 devtmpfsd unshares a copy of the initial mount
    namespace which since nullfs contains the initramfs mount. It
    doesn't show up in /proc/<pid>/mountinfo because it's below the
    thread's root. That's already fixed in mainline by commit
    66d2faeccbff ("devtmpfs: create private mount namespace").

(2) On all kernels since v7.0 the idle threads of the secondary cpus
    are forked from PID 1 and each of them gets a private copy of the
    fs_struct of PID 1 with the initramfs as root and pwd. Idle threads
    aren't on the task list so pivot_root() never moves them over to
    the new root and they never exit. With a single possible cpu there
    are no such idle threads which is why booting a VM with -smp 1
    hides it.

This series fixes (2) by letting the idle threads share init_fs like
init_task already does. The first patch turns the umh boolean of
copy_fs() into flags. The second patch is the actual fix and carries a
reproducer.

systemd could go back to emptying the initramfs when switching root like
it did before nullfs and that's what [2] does. But that only frees the
contents. The mount and the superblock stay pinned. And I don't think
userspace should have to do that. With nullfs it's supposed to be able
to just unmount the initramfs and be done with it.

We could also teach chroot_fs_refs() about idle threads. But they are
kernel threads and have no business holding a reference to the root of
userspace to begin with.

Of the stable kernels only v7.2 is affected and the backport looks
different there. PID 1 still shares init_fs with all kthreads so passing
CLONE_FS in fork_idle() is enough. It also needs 66d2faeccbff which
applies cleanly.

I've tested this with the reproducer from the second patch and with a
systemd 262 initrd on 4 cpus. On vfs.fixes about 170MB stay Unevictable
after switching root and with this series they're freed. Same for the
backport on v7.2.

[1]: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/43911
[2]: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/44144

Signed-off-by: Christian Brauner (Amutable) <brauner@kernel.org>
---
Christian Brauner (2):
      fs: pass flags to copy_fs()
      fs: let idle threads share init_fs

 kernel/fork.c | 20 +++++++++++++++-----
 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
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base-commit: 19cd109ac4ab4b0dece4ebfbf3ab0532cc5cb505
change-id: 20261012-work-fs-idle_fs-bbfb9604d4f4


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