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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hongyan Xia <hongyan.xia2@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Wei Wang <wvw@google.com>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Subject: Re: Uclamp races due to non-atomic static_branch_likely updates
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:38:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261021113806.GE2823843@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261020152933.16989549@gandalf.local.home>

On Tue, Oct 20, 2026 at 03:29:33PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 11:53:47 -0700
> John Stultz <jstultz@google.com> wrote:
> 
> > Maybe should the jump_label_update() logic be using something like
> > stop_machine? Or should there still be a conditional on key->enabled
> > in the unlikely case to make the behavior consistent? Or is there just
> > something about the uclamp usage that is off?
> 
> There's never been any guarantee that all call sites would update
> atomically. The first user of jump labels was tracepoints and I really do
> not want stop machine involved with them.
> 
> Perhaps we could add an api like static_key_enable_atomic() and
> static_key_disable_atomic() that would go through a stop_machine() and
> update everything that way for those locations that need an atomic view of
> the updated jump labels.

Argh, no, we do not want people to 'accidentally' add stop_machine()
usage, which we then have to spend tons of time on removing again.

And yeah, its always been the case that jump_labels (and static_branch)
updates are non-atomic. Most of them are init time, and don't care.

Now, I'm sure we've ran into this particular problem before, and it
always requires care.

Also note that a simple global boolean has the exact same problem.
Adding runtime conditionals isn't going to fix this.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-21 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-20 18:53 John Stultz
2026-10-20 19:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-21 11:38   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-10-21 13:20     ` Qais Yousef
2026-10-21 13:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-21 14:02         ` Qais Yousef
2026-10-21 13:21     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-21 13:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-21 13:59         ` Steven Rostedt

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