From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Loughlin <kevinloughlin@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] virtio_balloon, efi/unaccepted: support memory ballooning and free page reporting in CoCo guests
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 16:39:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261027163814-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261027051245-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 06:29:35AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 02:56:03AM +0000, Kevin Loughlin wrote:
> > This series enables virtio-balloon free page reporting and memory balloon
> > inflation/deflation in Confidential Computing (CoCo) guests, starting
> > with architectural hooks implemented for AMD SEV variants, in order to
> > support dynamic CoCo guest resizing.
> >
> > Today, memory ballooning and free page reporting are essentially unusable
> > in CoCo guests due to three main roadblocks:
>
>
> For me, the bigger question is not whether we can, but whether we
> should. Considerations I would like to see addressed:
>
> Security, e.g.: does knowing which memory is free leak information from
> the guest? If no, why not?
> Consider CONFIG_SHUFFLE_PAGE_ALLOCATOR, RANDSTRUCT, etc.
>
> correctness, e.g.: Linux has init on free (and default on windows), if
> initialized pages are dropped and host can not be trusted, they have to be
> re-initialized. Is this handled? I don't see it in code.
>
> Also, performance, e.g.: How much does this re-initialization cost?
>
> Management: it was simple with balloon off unconditionally.
> Now we are in murkier waters with various features offering
> various performance/security tradeoffs.
> What if some guests want the tradeoffs but others don't?
>
> Documentation: for all of the above.
>
> --
> MST
And to give this a bit more perspective, I present:
commit ab676b7d6fbf4b294bf198fb27ade5b0e865c7ce
Author: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Date: Mon Mar 9 23:11:12 2015 +0200
pagemap: do not leak physical addresses to non-privileged userspace
As pointed by recent post[1] on exploiting DRAM physical imperfection,
/proc/PID/pagemap exposes sensitive information which can be used to do
attacks.
This disallows anybody without CAP_SYS_ADMIN to read the pagemap.
[1] http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/03/exploiting-dram-rowhammer-bug-to-gain.html
[ Eventually we might want to do anything more finegrained, but for now
this is the simple model. - Linus ]
Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Acked-by: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>
Acked-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mark Seaborn <mseaborn@chromium.org>
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Leaking phys addresses to unpriveleged entities might not be wise.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-27 20:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-27 2:56 Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 01/13] virtio_ring: support per-virtqueue DMA mapping ops Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 9:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-28 15:38 ` Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 02/13] virtio_balloon: add reporting_vq DMA map ops Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 03/13] x86/coco/sev: add snp_unaccept_memory() Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 04/13] x86/coco/sev: fix zeropad #VC on unaccepted memory Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 05/13] efi/libstub: start unaccepted bitmap at address 0 Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 06/13] efi/unaccepted: add mark_memory_unaccepted() Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 07/13] mm/page_alloc: allow lower-order unaccepted_pages Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 08/13] mm/page_alloc: route unaccepted isolated pages Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm/page_reporting: account for unaccepted memory Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 10/13] virtio_balloon: add higher-order page inflation Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 9:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-28 15:39 ` Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 9:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-28 8:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:40 ` Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 11/13] virtio_balloon: unaccept free reporting ranges Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 12/13] virtio_balloon: unaccept inflated balloon pages Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 2:56 ` [PATCH 13/13] virtio_balloon: enforce ACCESS_PLATFORM in CoCo Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-27 10:29 ` [PATCH 00/13] virtio_balloon, efi/unaccepted: support memory ballooning and free page reporting in CoCo guests Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-27 20:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-10-28 17:51 ` Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-28 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 18:12 ` Kevin Loughlin
2026-10-28 18:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-28 19:49 ` Kevin Loughlin
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