From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Maulik Shah <maulik.shah@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>, Ulf Hansson <ulfh@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
Abel Vesa <abelvesa@kernel.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@oss.qualcomm.com>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] pmdomain: Add support for system-suspend-only states
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2026 15:28:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261109-swinging-inventive-wrasse-e82ec8@sudeepholla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPx+jO-0Vmah=2mewp-kspV7Nqr+Ay_nnO9fTFB_TMbOoHJp5Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Nov 09, 2026 at 04:05:56PM +0100, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 12:48 PM Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
[...]
> > Now I understood the requirement much better. The core issue with OSI is
> > that it fails unless the platform downgrades special system states to
> > non-system states during routine CPUIdle paths.
> >
> > This leaves us with two directions for OSI:
> > 1. Firmware Resolution: Handle state transitions entirely in firmware.
> > 2. OS Intervention: Enforce the handling via the OS.
> >
> > Though I personally prefer (1), I don't have strong arguments against (2)
> > now that you made me understand the requirement. Sorry for taking time,
> > but mentally I was assuming (1) even for OSI until your above response.
> >
> > Since PC mode relies on the firmware to manage these states natively, this
> > binding isn't required for it. Therefore, Could we restrict this specific
> > binding exclusively to OSI implementations ?
>
> I guess we could, but that seems rather messy. According to earlier
> discussions, if I recall correctly, we deliberately avoided OSI
> specific DT bindings/properties, since support for OSI mode should be
> detected through the FW.
>
Fair enough, we should at the least warn if used on the systems in
PC CPU suspend mode.
> Also note that the domain-idle-state DT bindings
> (Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/domain-idle-state.yaml) are
> generic and used by RISC-V SBI as well.
>
Agreed.
--
Regards,
Sudeep
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-09 15:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-05 15:29 [PATCH 0/3] pmdomain: Support system-suspend-only domain idle states Maulik Shah
2026-10-05 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: power: domain-idle-state: Add system-state Maulik Shah
2026-10-06 9:11 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-10-05 15:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] pmdomain: Add support for system-suspend-only states Maulik Shah
2026-10-06 9:15 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-10-07 18:55 ` Val Packett
2026-10-08 9:16 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-10-08 12:21 ` Ulf Hansson
2026-10-09 12:21 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-10-09 14:26 ` Ulf Hansson
2026-10-09 15:27 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-10-13 10:11 ` Ulf Hansson
2026-10-14 19:12 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-10-28 10:59 ` Ulf Hansson
2026-10-28 11:48 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-11-09 15:05 ` Ulf Hansson
2026-11-09 15:28 ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2026-10-05 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: dts: qcom: monaco-evk: Add suspend-only power collapse state Maulik Shah
2026-10-13 9:08 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-10-14 6:15 ` Maulik Shah
2026-10-16 12:15 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-10-06 13:32 ` [PATCH 0/3] pmdomain: Support system-suspend-only domain idle states Kevin Hilman
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