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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lukasz.luba@arm.com, rafael@kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	tj@kernel.org, void@manifault.com, arighi@nvidia.com,
	changwoo@igalia.com, sched-ext@lists.linux.dev,
	qyousef@layalina.io, christian.loehle@arm.com,
	pierre.gondois@arm.com, sshegde@linux.ibm.com,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Reset lag at wakeup when prev CPU has been idle
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2026 16:45:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261109154536.GK1779021@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtDXo8_3tfXt=UH+BKyO1rJCWjRAVXjO5nFVHO1NBd8LyA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 09, 2026 at 04:27:14PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2026 at 17:22, Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 06, 2026 at 04:19:29PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > @@ -8376,6 +8383,9 @@ static bool __dequeue_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
> > >
> > >       dequeue_hierarchy(p, flags);
> > >
> > > +     if (!(flags & DEQUEUE_SAVE) && !cfs_rq->h_nr_queued)
> > > +             cfs_rq->idle_seq++;
> >
> > This needs WRITE_ONCE, no?  3/20 uses READ_ONCE().
> 
> I hesistated to make it WRITE_ONCE but i concluded that it was not
> strictly necessary because the READ_ONCE is only used to compare the
> value but not use it for any computation or sync so if the compiler
> wants to do any kind of optimization what we really care is : is it
> equal or not ? so any intermediate value that we would read would be
> ok

Right, so without WRITE_ONCE() the compiler is allowed to write the word
in random order byte writes. When comparing only cares about equality,
any intermediate messed up state is not equal. And since we were
incrementing, we're not supposed to be equal to any previous snapshot.

Therefore all is well.

That said; we should either document the above reasoning, or just do
WRITE_ONCE() and get all the sanitizers off our back, because I'm
certain that KCSAN is going to complain about this.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-09 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-06 15:19 [PATCH 00/18 v3] Improving latency of short slice tasks Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 01/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Decay positive lag of sleeping entities Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 02/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Reset lag at wakeup when prev CPU has been idle Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 16:22   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-09 15:27     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-11-09 15:45       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-11-09 16:27         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 03/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Reset lag at wakeup when migrating and prev " Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 18:05   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 04/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Reset lag when waking up on idle cpu Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 18:39   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 05/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Add per cpu cached min_slice Vincent Guittot
2026-11-07  6:53   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-09 15:27     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 06/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Add min slice check when selecting CPU Vincent Guittot
2026-11-07  8:57   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-09 13:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-09 14:15       ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-09 15:37         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-11-09 15:34     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-11-09 15:55     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-11-09 19:56       ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 07/20 v3] sched/fair: Prepare select_task_rq_fair() to be called for new cases Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 08/20 v3] sched/fair: Add push task mechanism for fair Vincent Guittot
2026-11-09 14:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-09 16:07     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-11-09 15:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-09 16:14     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 09/20 v3] sched/fair: Optimize " Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 10/20 v3] sched/core: Add rq flag to tick parameters Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 11/20 v3] sched/fair: Add force push task mechanism for fair Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 12/20 v3] sched/fair: Support not wakeup case in select_idle_sibling Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 13/20] sched/eevdf: Try to push short slice task on a better CPU Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 14/20 v3] sched/eevdf: Push short slice task that are not picked Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 15/20 v3] sched/fair: Enable push task for preempt short Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 16/20 v3] energy model: Add a get previous state function Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 17/20 v3] sched/fair: Rework feec() to use cost instead of spare capacity Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 18/20 v3] energy model: Remove unused em_cpu_energy() Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 19/20 v3] sched/fair: Take into account slice in EAS Vincent Guittot
2026-11-06 15:19 ` [PATCH 20/20 v3] sched/fair: Fix tasks stacking on same idle CPU Vincent Guittot

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