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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ziqianlu@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/12] sched: Remove sched_class::balance()
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 14:05:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261111130512.GO2668200@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a98c40701cc874318e7fe475d90795c6@kernel.org>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2026 at 01:18:42AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Sat, Nov 07, 2026 at 12:59:25PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >  static struct task_struct *pick_task_rt(struct rq *rq, struct rq_flags *rf)
> >  {
> > -	struct task_struct *p;
> > +	rq_modified_begin(rq, &rt_sched_class);
> > +	balance_rt(rq, rf);
> > +	if (rq_modified_above(rq, &rt_sched_class))
> > +		return RETRY_TASK;
> 
> This exposes an underlying problem on the DL side. rq->next_class is
> raised only by wakeup_preempt(), but dl_server_start(), dl_task_timer()
> and dl_server_timer() enqueue a DL entity and open-code resched_curr()
> without going through it. prev_balance() ran before any class was
> picked, so it didn't matter. Now, pick_task_dl() has already returned
> NULL when balance_rt() drops the lock, and rq_modified_above() is the
> only thing which can notice a DL entity queued in the meantime:
> 
>   CPU0 RT task blocks, pick_task_dl() returns NULL
>        pick_task_rt(), balance_rt() drops the rq lock
>   CPU1 wakes a fair task onto CPU0, dl_server_start()
>   CPU0 relocks, rq_modified_above() is false
>        picks an RT task with the fair server queued

A very nice catch, but I'm not entirely convinced it wasn't a problem
before.

Similar argument could be made for FAIR vs EXT, and picking a FAIR task
while an EXT server is pickable.

> resched_curr() doesn't help as __schedule() clears it on prev after the
> pick. I can trigger this with NO_RT_PUSH_IPI and a delay added in the
> lock drop. With RT_PUSH_IPI, pull_rt_task() doesn't drop the lock.
> 
> Maybe the DL sites should raise rq->next_class where they enqueue and
> resched, so that they behave the same as regular wakeups?

Yes, something like that. I think the below captures all enqueues,
irrespective of rescheds. I'll add it as fix at the start of the series.

(although maybe I'll massage this a little more and create a helper,
doing the same thing over and over like this is daft)

Thanks!

---
--- a/kernel/sched/deadline.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/deadline.c
@@ -715,8 +715,7 @@ static struct rq *dl_task_offline_migrat
 	return later_rq;
 }
 
-static void
-enqueue_dl_entity(struct sched_dl_entity *dl_se, int flags);
+static bool enqueue_dl_entity(struct sched_dl_entity *dl_se, int flags);
 static void enqueue_task_dl(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags);
 static void dequeue_dl_entity(struct sched_dl_entity *dl_se, int flags);
 static void wakeup_preempt_dl(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags);
@@ -1184,7 +1183,8 @@ static enum hrtimer_restart dl_server_ti
 			dl_se->dl_defer_running = 1;
 		}
 
-		enqueue_dl_entity(dl_se, ENQUEUE_REPLENISH);
+		if (enqueue_dl_entity(dl_se, ENQUEUE_REPLENISH))
+			rq->next_class = &dl_sched_class;
 
 		if (!dl_task(dl_se->rq->curr) || dl_entity_preempt(dl_se, &dl_se->rq->curr->dl))
 			resched_curr(rq);
@@ -1520,7 +1520,8 @@ static void update_curr_dl_se(struct rq
 					replenish_dl_new_period(dl_se, rq);
 					start_dl_timer(dl_se);
 				} else {
-					enqueue_dl_entity(dl_se, ENQUEUE_REPLENISH);
+					if (enqueue_dl_entity(dl_se, ENQUEUE_REPLENISH))
+						rq->next_class = &dl_sched_class;
 				}
 			} else {
 				enqueue_task_dl(rq, dl_task_of(dl_se), ENQUEUE_REPLENISH);
@@ -1812,7 +1813,8 @@ void dl_server_start(struct sched_dl_ent
 
 	trace_sched_dl_server_start_tp(dl_se, cpu_of(rq), dl_get_type(dl_se, rq));
 	dl_se->dl_server_active = 1;
-	enqueue_dl_entity(dl_se, ENQUEUE_WAKEUP);
+	if (enqueue_dl_entity(dl_se, ENQUEUE_WAKEUP))
+		rq->next_class = &dl_sched_class;
 	if (!dl_task(dl_se->rq->curr) || dl_entity_preempt(dl_se, &rq->curr->dl))
 		resched_curr(dl_se->rq);
 }
@@ -2379,7 +2381,7 @@ static void __dequeue_dl_entity(struct s
 	dec_dl_tasks(dl_se, dl_rq);
 }
 
-static void
+static bool
 enqueue_dl_entity(struct sched_dl_entity *dl_se, int flags)
 {
 	WARN_ON_ONCE(on_dl_rq(dl_se));
@@ -2418,7 +2420,7 @@ enqueue_dl_entity(struct sched_dl_entity
 		if (flags & ENQUEUE_WAKEUP)
 			task_contending(dl_se, flags);
 
-		return;
+		return false;
 	}
 
 	/*
@@ -2442,7 +2444,7 @@ enqueue_dl_entity(struct sched_dl_entity
 	 * deferred task and still got to wait, don't enqueue.
 	 */
 	if (dl_se->dl_throttled && start_dl_timer(dl_se))
-		return;
+		return false;
 
 	/*
 	 * We're about to enqueue, make sure we're not ->dl_throttled!
@@ -2457,6 +2459,7 @@ enqueue_dl_entity(struct sched_dl_entity
 	}
 
 	__enqueue_dl_entity(dl_se);
+	return true;
 }
 
 static void dequeue_dl_entity(struct sched_dl_entity *dl_se, int flags)
@@ -2534,7 +2537,8 @@ static void enqueue_task_dl(struct rq *r
 	if (task_on_rq_migrating(p))
 		flags |= ENQUEUE_MIGRATING;
 
-	enqueue_dl_entity(dl_se, flags);
+	if (enqueue_dl_entity(dl_se, flags))
+		rq->next_class = &dl_sched_class;
 
 	if (dl_server(dl_se))
 		return;

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-11 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-07 11:59 [PATCH v2 00/12] sched: core-sched fixes and balancing Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] sched/core: Fix pick_next_task() self recursion Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11  0:30   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 10:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] sched/core: Introduce rq_drop_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-08  9:25   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11 10:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] sched/core: Decompose update_rq_clock() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] sched/core: Make __update_rq_clock() skip updates on UPDATED Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11  1:11   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 10:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 12:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] sched/core: Abstract/fix rq_clock_start_loop_update() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-08 22:26   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11  9:10     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-11-11  9:51       ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] sched/core: New rq_{pin,drop,repin,unpin}_lock() semantics Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 10:41   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] sched/core: Simplify/fix time updates Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] sched/core: Allow newidle for core-sched Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] sched/rt: Add early exit on balance path Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] sched/fair: Reflow pick_task_fair() / newidle Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 11:02   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 12:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] sched/fair: Push sched_balance_newidle() unlock down Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] sched: Remove sched_class::balance() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 11:18   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 13:05     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-11-11 13:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 11:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] sched: core-sched fixes and balancing Tejun Heo

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