From: Qiliang Yuan <qiliang.yuan@linux.dev>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Qiliang Yuan <qiliang.yuan@linux.dev>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Avoid re-syncing runtime_enabled on root domain changes
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 06:10:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261112111055.400697-1-qiliang.yuan@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261112105624.GM2668804@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 11:56:24AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> How do you end up with 4k cgroups ?!? That's wild.
It is common on hosts running AI agent harnesses: every agent sandbox
gets its own container, and each pod and container has a cgroup with
the cpu controller enabled, so a single kernel easily carries over a
thousand task groups. 4000 is the upper end of that, picked to show the
scaling.
> Also, why do you care about the rebuild performance? I'm not entirely
> sure it makes sense to add data for something that 'never' happens. Do
> we really need a new member variable for this?
On those setups it is not rare. Agent harnesses and KubeVirt both
hot-add and remove vCPUs at run time to follow the load, and every
hotplug rebuilds the sched domains of the guest.
A rebuild runs rq_attach_root() on every active CPU, and with the rq
lock held and interrupts disabled it walks all task groups twice. With
4000 cpu cgroups on a 32-CPU VM, one rq_attach_root() call takes 188 us
at the median and up to 938 us, against 2 us with both patches applied
(20 partition switches, 1280 calls). So every rebuild leaves each CPU
with interrupts off for close to a millisecond in the worst case.
The member is there because rq_online_fair() can't tell a rebuild from
a CPU coming up: the CPU is active in both cases, but only the latter
can have runtime_enabled out of date after unthrottle_offline_cfs_rqs().
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-12 11:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-12 1:24 [PATCH 0/2] sched/fair: Cut per-group work from sched domain rebuilds Qiliang Yuan
2026-11-12 1:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Skip rq_offline_fair() work for CPUs that stay active Qiliang Yuan
2026-11-12 1:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Avoid re-syncing runtime_enabled on root domain changes Qiliang Yuan
2026-11-12 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-12 11:10 ` Qiliang Yuan [this message]
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