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From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was:  Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs  maintenance disaster)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:43:33 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21d7e9970909191843l6fbb835bme509c18cedfd728c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090918195005.GA11726@elte.hu>

>
> Self-contained /dev is great, udev is a total PITA on older distros (on
> this box it sometimes takes 3 minutes for udev to boot ...) so turning
> on devtmpfs and getting something functional in exchange is a big
> selling point IMO.

udev taking 3 minutes usually means you have a kernel driver bug,
udev doesn't have a sleep for 3 minutes, it loads drivers and usually
waits for them to finish. Since someone decided to merge a stupid
floppy PNP match I've seen a lot of floppyless machines hit a 30sec
udev delay. so many that we disabled the pnp floppy on Fedora.

Dave.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-20  1:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-17  8:23 [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-17 12:03 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-17 13:13   ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 16:35     ` Scott James Remnant
2009-09-17 17:47       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-17 18:59         ` Scott James Remnant
2009-09-17 19:11           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 12:57           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 13:16   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 13:54   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 14:09     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 14:11       ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 14:25         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 14:32           ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 14:43             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 14:58               ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 15:13                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 15:32                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 19:33                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 14:42       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-17 12:57 ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 13:05   ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 13:29     ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 15:43       ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18  6:03         ` Greg KH
2009-09-18  9:25           ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18 15:05             ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 17:29   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-17 18:53     ` [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster) Ingo Molnar
2009-09-17 19:18       ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-17 20:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-17 20:31           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18  5:58             ` Greg KH
2009-09-25 20:49               ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-27 22:52                 ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 22:26           ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-17 22:41             ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18  0:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18  1:50               ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18  6:02                 ` Greg KH
2009-09-18 11:50                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 14:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 15:05                     ` Greg KH
2009-09-18 15:37                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 19:35                         ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 19:41                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 19:50                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-20  1:43                             ` Dave Airlie [this message]
2009-09-20 15:08                               ` Greg KH
2009-09-21  2:58                                 ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]                                 ` <ac3eb2510909200912o76e0d4e4l2dcaf352fe6b4e19@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <ac3eb2510909200914g1ed6a47cydc0edec6fff96ef4@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-21  2:59                                     ` Dave Airlie
2009-10-20 20:32                                       ` Scott James Remnant
2009-09-20 17:33                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 20:58                 ` [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 21:09                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 21:19                     ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 22:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 21:31                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 22:03                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18  5:54     ` [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster Greg KH
2009-09-18 12:24       ` Eric W. Biederman

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