From: jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Stefan Richter" <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Nick Piggin" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] mdb: Merkey's Linux Kernel Debugger 2.6.27-rc4 released
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:58:01 -0600 (MDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2270.69.2.248.210.1219330681.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080821145333.GF6690@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>
>> Still, I'd like Jeff to show his C, the resulting asm and the intent for
>> the volatile and barrier versions of his code (well, little snippets of
>> his code obviuosly).
>>
>> Either he doesn't understand barriers (nothing to be ashamed about), or
>> we might have more trouble lurking in the rest of the kernel.
>
> Sounds fair to me!
>
> Thanx, Paul
>
I have thoroughly reviewed Linux memory barriers and the efficacy of the
barriers as defined in Linux are not the issue here. the code segment
discussed sits and spins on a variable waiting for a specific state, and
its a spinlock which creates a hard barrier, so no amount of barrier usage
should nor does matter here. Even if a processor was late in flushing its
writes, sooner or later the spinning processor would see the change in the
shared memory address -- IF IT WERE ACTUALLY A SHARED REFERENCE. What I
am seeing is not an issue of races between processors on load/store
operations, but cases where gcc has chosen to optimize away global
references entirely.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-21 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-21 2:50 jmerkey
2008-08-21 10:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 10:57 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 11:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 11:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-21 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 14:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-21 14:58 ` jmerkey [this message]
2008-08-21 12:05 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 12:26 ` jmerkey
[not found] ` <43593.166.70.238.46.1219321595.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com >
2008-08-21 12:35 ` jmerkey
2008-08-21 13:37 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 14:09 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-22 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-22 6:32 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-22 11:54 ` jmerkey
2008-08-22 12:36 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 14:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-21 14:14 ` jmerkey
2008-08-21 14:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-21 21:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-21 21:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 21:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-24 4:25 ` jmerkey
2008-08-26 8:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 1:49 ` jmerkey
2008-08-22 1:37 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 14:02 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 14:08 ` jmerkey
2008-08-21 15:22 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 15:02 ` jmerkey
2008-08-21 15:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 16:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-24 0:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-21 16:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
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