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From: jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Stefan Richter" <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Nick Piggin" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] mdb: Merkey's Linux Kernel Debugger 2.6.27-rc4  released
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:58:01 -0600 (MDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2270.69.2.248.210.1219330681.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080821145333.GF6690@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

>
>> Still, I'd like Jeff to show his C, the resulting asm and the intent for
>> the volatile and barrier versions of his code (well, little snippets of
>> his code obviuosly).
>>
>> Either he doesn't understand barriers (nothing to be ashamed about), or
>> we might have more trouble lurking in the rest of the kernel.
>
> Sounds fair to me!
>
> 							Thanx, Paul
>

I have thoroughly reviewed Linux memory barriers and the efficacy of the
barriers as defined in Linux are not the issue here.  the code segment
discussed sits and spins on a variable waiting for a specific state, and
its a spinlock which creates a hard barrier, so no amount of barrier usage
should nor does matter here.  Even if a processor was late in flushing its
writes, sooner or later the spinning processor would see the change in the
shared memory address -- IF IT WERE ACTUALLY A SHARED REFERENCE.  What I
am seeing is not an issue of races between processors on load/store
operations, but cases where gcc has chosen to optimize away global
references entirely.

Jeff


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-21 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21  2:50 jmerkey
2008-08-21 10:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 10:57   ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 11:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 11:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-21 12:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 14:53           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-21 14:58             ` jmerkey [this message]
2008-08-21 12:05         ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 12:26           ` jmerkey
     [not found]             ` <43593.166.70.238.46.1219321595.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com >
2008-08-21 12:35               ` jmerkey
2008-08-21 13:37             ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 14:09               ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-22  1:40                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-22  6:32                   ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-22 11:54                     ` jmerkey
2008-08-22 12:36                       ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 14:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 14:30                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-21 14:14                   ` jmerkey
2008-08-21 14:48                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-21 16:21                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-21 21:06               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-21 21:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 21:21                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-24  4:25                   ` jmerkey
2008-08-26  8:26                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27  1:49                       ` jmerkey
2008-08-22  1:37                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 14:02             ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 14:08               ` jmerkey
2008-08-21 15:22                 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-21 15:02                   ` jmerkey
2008-08-21 15:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 16:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 16:48             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-24  0:01               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-21 16:43           ` Paul E. McKenney

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