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From: Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Rafael J Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Guixin Liu <kanie@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 1/5] PCI/DPC: Ignore devices with no AER Capability
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 09:43:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24b9db58-e654-408b-85a9-15c5af5e944a@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aq95LGUHL-pnmTlr@wunner.de>

Hi Lukas,

On 9/19/2026 11:11 PM, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2026 at 09:26:51AM -0700, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
>> Downstream Ports may support DPC regardless of whether they support AER
>> (see PCIe r7.0, sec 6.2.11.2).  Previously, if the user booted with
>> "pcie_ports=dpc-native", it was possible for dpc_probe() to succeed even if
>> the device had no AER Capability, but dpc_get_aer_uncorrect_severity()
>> depends on the AER Capability.
> [...]
>> +++ b/drivers/pci/pcie/dpc.c
>> @@ -477,6 +477,9 @@ static int dpc_probe(struct pcie_device *dev)
>>  	int status;
>>  	u16 cap;
>>  
>> +	if (!pdev->aer_cap)
>> +		return -ENOTSUPP;
>> +
>>  	if (!pcie_aer_is_native(pdev) && !pcie_ports_dpc_native)
>>  		return -ENOTSUPP;
> 
> I've got patches which make DPC work (again) on AER-unsupporting ports:
> 
>   https://github.com/l1k/linux/commits/aer_baseline_v1/
> 
> In particular:
> 
>   PCI/DPC: Avoid access to non-existent AER capability
>   https://github.com/l1k/linux/commit/85f209fd4732
> 
>   PCI/DPC: Reinstate support for AER-incapable ports
>   https://github.com/l1k/linux/commit/2de89b762d79
> 
> I'm almost done with that series and hope to submit it this cycle.
> Your patch [1/5] will cause a conflict with my patches.
> Would you mind holding off on patch [1/5] for now?

Sure. At first glance, your series fixes the AER/DPC dependency cleanly.

I think we can drop this patch. Bjorn, let me know if you think otherwise.

> 
> There's another reason:  I know of one product in particular,
> Intel "Ponte Vecchio" data center GPUs, which support DPC but
> lack an AER capability.  DPC was tested and made to work on
> those cards (see 53b54ad074de).
> 
> I didn't realize back then but know now that validation engineers
> specifically used pcie_ports=dpc-native to be able to use DPC on
> that product.  And I believe this was also communicated to customers
> as "best known method" for DPC on Ponte Vecchio.  In other words,
> using pcie_ports=dpc-native to make DPC work on non-AER-capable products
> has become a feature.  Your patch breaks those use cases.
> 
> That's why I chose to make DPC work (again) on non-AER-capable products
> with the above-linked patches, instead of closing this loophole to
> force-enable it.
> 



> Thanks,
> 
> Lukas

-- 
Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
Linux Kernel Developer


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-19 16:26 [PATCH v13 0/5] Simplify PCIe native ownership Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v13 1/5] PCI/DPC: Ignore devices with no AER Capability Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-20  6:11   ` Lukas Wunner
2026-09-21 16:43     ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan [this message]
2026-09-21 19:01       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-09-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v13 2/5] PCI: Assume control of portdrv-related features only when portdrv enabled Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-20  6:17   ` Lukas Wunner
2026-09-21 18:59     ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-21 19:01     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-09-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v13 3/5] PCI/ACPI: Tidy _OSC control bit checking Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v13 4/5] PCI/ACPI: Centralize pcie_ports_native checking Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-20  7:24   ` Guixin Liu
2026-09-21 20:41     ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v13 5/5] PCI: Centralize pci_aer_available() checking Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-01-23  1:11 [PATCH v13 0/5] Simplify PCIe native ownership Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2021-01-23  1:11 ` [PATCH v13 1/5] PCI/DPC: Ignore devices with no AER Capability Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan

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