From: Mukesh R <mrathor@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
jgg@nvidia.com, jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com, kys@microsoft.com,
haiyangz@microsoft.com, wei.liu@kernel.org, decui@microsoft.com,
tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
will@kernel.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, arnd@arndb.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 3/3] x86/hyperv: Implement root VM IOMMU kernel only driver
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2026 15:33:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <27f49fd8-a95e-9812-c996-53d9eb27a148@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arYcFJYOvKf-A6xt@8bytes.org>
On 9/25/26 00:13, J?rg R?del wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 05:14:12PM -0700, Mukesh R wrote:
>> So, I'm at a bit of loss. I could go back to V0 which did what what you
>> suggested above, but it can also leave stale mappings when map hypercall
>> succeeds partially and we delete the entire tree node in cleanup (but
>> we could add to the tree back whatever succeeded, but that could fail
>> also, but then we could unmap whatever was mapped, but that could fail
>> also.. see :)...).
>>
>
> The root-problem seems to be that every operation in the step can fail,
> inluding the unmap operation. This makes it really hard to maintain a
> consistent state. Are there any guarantees Hyper-V gives on the unmap
> operation, e.g under which circumstances it can fail? It would really help if
> the code could assume that it will never fail, or treat a failure as a hard
> error.
I talked to the hyp dev, and unmap is guaranteed to succeed unless
the input is bad, even suggesting i could put a bug there. But i know
there is aversion to putting lot of BUG()s, so i'll just leave the WARN
there.
> If there are no guarantees HV can give, a solution might be to add a
> mapping-resize operation to the internal tree (which can not fail) to correctly
> update the tree structure on partially successful unmaps.
Yeah, perhaps we could do that in future to benefit all drivers.
> I still believe that the internal tree structure should be updated before the
> HV map operation takes place.
Yes, i'll move that before map.
Thanks again,
-Mukesh
>>>> +static int __init hv_iommu_init(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> + int rc;
>>>> + struct iommu_device *iommup = &hv_virt_iommu;
>>>> + struct hv_output_get_iommu_capabilities caps;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (!hv_is_hyperv_initialized())
>>>> + return -ENODEV;
>>>> +
>>>> + rc = hv_iommu_get_caps(&caps);
>>>> + if (rc)
>>>> + return rc;
>>>> +
>>>
>>> The capabilities returned need more checking. I think at least it needs a check
>>> for HV_IOMMU_CAP_PRESENT and that PAGE_SIZE is set in the pgsize_bitmap.
>>
>> In general this caps hypercall is not available to root partitions,
>> our only agreement is for hyp to provide max_iova_width. But, we check
>> HV_DEVICE_DOMAIN_AVAILABLE in hv_iommu_detect() which sorta supersedes
>> HV_IOMMU_CAP_PRESENT. As for page size, hyp owns the iommu and can chose
>> the page size, meaning it can automatically use larger page size when
>> possible. But the hypercall HVCALL_MAP_DEVICE_GPA_PAGES will only take
>> 4k pfns as input, hence:
>>
>> #define HV_IOMMU_PGSIZES SZ_4K /* for now, to be enhanced */
>
> Okay, so this deserves a comment in the code to make it clear why there is no
> additional checking and what the hyper-v to guest contract for feature
> detection is.
>
>> Ok, I can change it back to DMA_BIT_MASK. (I removed after comment
>> on V0 that this is not dma address).
>
> An IOVA is a DMA address by definition :)
>
> -Joerg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-28 22:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-24 2:02 [PATCH V1 0/3] Hyper-V: root VM iommu " Mukesh R
2026-09-24 2:02 ` [PATCH V1 1/3] PCI: hv: Export hv_build_devid_type_pci() and change return type Mukesh R
2026-09-24 2:02 ` [PATCH V1 2/3] mshv: Import data structs around device domains from hyperv headers Mukesh R
2026-09-24 17:48 ` Easwar Hariharan
2026-09-24 2:02 ` [PATCH V1 3/3] x86/hyperv: Implement root VM IOMMU kernel only driver Mukesh R
2026-09-24 13:35 ` Jörg Rödel
2026-09-25 0:14 ` Mukesh R
2026-09-25 7:13 ` Jörg Rödel
2026-09-28 22:33 ` Mukesh R [this message]
2026-09-28 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 16:35 ` Easwar Hariharan
2026-09-28 23:33 ` Mukesh R
2026-09-28 23:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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