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From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>
To: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>,
	"ast@kernel.org" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"daniel@iogearbox.net" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"acme@kernel.org" <acme@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC perf,bpf 5/5] perf util: generate bpf_prog_info_event for short living bpf programs
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 23:29:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27fc8327-3390-ba5a-6063-89c9e7165e7b@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6C5A9FBD-F50D-444C-9038-E9557EC850D2@fb.com>

On 11/6/18 3:17 PM, Song Liu wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:54 PM, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/6/18 1:52 PM, Song Liu wrote:
>>> +
>>> static int record__mmap_read_all(struct record *rec)
>>> {
>>> 	int err;
>>>
>>> +	err = record__mmap_process_vip_events(rec);
>>> +	if (err)
>>> +		return err;
>>> +
>>> 	err = record__mmap_read_evlist(rec, rec->evlist, false);
>>> 	if (err)
>>> 		return err;
>>
>> Seems to me that is going to increase the overhead of perf on any system
>> doing BPF updates. The BPF events cause a wakeup every load and unload,
>> and perf processes not only the VIP events but then walks all of the
>> other maps.
> 
> BPF prog load/unload events should be rare events in real world use cases.
> So I think the overhead is OK. Also, I don't see an easy way to improve
> this.
> 
>>
>>> @@ -1686,6 +1734,8 @@ static struct option __record_options[] = {
>>> 			  "signal"),
>>> 	OPT_BOOLEAN(0, "dry-run", &dry_run,
>>> 		    "Parse options then exit"),
>>> +	OPT_BOOLEAN(0, "no-bpf-event", &record.no_bpf_event,
>>> +		    "do not record event on bpf program load/unload"),
>>
>> Why should this default on? If am recording FIB events, I don't care
>> about BPF events.
>>
> 
> I am OK with default off if that's the preferred way.

I think concerns with perf overhead from collecting bpf events
are unfounded.
I would prefer for this flag to be on by default.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-06 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-06 20:52 [RFC perf,bpf 0/5] reveal invisible " Song Liu
2018-11-06 20:52 ` [RFC perf,bpf 1/5] perf, bpf: Introduce PERF_RECORD_BPF_EVENT Song Liu
2018-11-07  8:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-07 18:25     ` Song Liu
2018-11-08 15:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-08 18:04         ` Song Liu
2018-11-08 18:26           ` David Ahern
2018-11-08 18:49             ` Song Liu
2018-11-09 17:08               ` David Ahern
2018-11-09 18:49                 ` Song Liu
2018-11-09 19:14                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-11-06 20:52 ` [RFC perf,bpf 2/5] perf: sync tools/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h Song Liu
2018-11-06 20:52 ` [RFC perf,bpf 3/5] perf util: basic handling of PERF_RECORD_BPF_EVENT Song Liu
2018-11-06 20:52 ` [RFC perf,bpf 4/5] perf util: introduce bpf_prog_info_event Song Liu
2018-11-06 21:11   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-11-06 20:52 ` [RFC perf,bpf 5/5] perf util: generate bpf_prog_info_event for short living bpf programs Song Liu
2018-11-06 21:54   ` David Ahern
2018-11-06 23:17     ` Song Liu
2018-11-06 23:29       ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2018-11-06 23:36         ` David Miller
2018-11-07  0:13           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-11-07  0:23             ` David Ahern
2018-11-07  0:26               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-11-07  0:44                 ` David Ahern
2018-11-07  1:09                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-11-07 18:12                     ` David Ahern
2018-11-07 18:28                       ` Song Liu

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