From: Markus Probst <markus.probst@posteo.de>
To: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>,
Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>, Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@kernel.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>,
bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
Trevor Gross <tmgross@umich.edu>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] rust: add basic Pin<Vec<T, A>> abstractions
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2025 22:11:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a31fcd045582382987c8c1da7c4b7d58a1dff61.camel@posteo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DDGNXV9KS3RS.2WHS4OOYM6DOP@kernel.org>
On Sun, 2025-10-12 at 23:31 +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Sun Oct 12, 2025 at 6:57 PM CEST, Markus Probst wrote:
> > From what I can tell, there is no way to get a `Pin<&mut Vec<T,
> > A>>`
> > from a `&mut Pin<Vec<T, A>>`. We can only get `Pin<&mut [T]>` which
> > is
> > not usable in our case.
>
> Hmm yeah that's true.
>
> > If there is way, without the extension trait or an extra struct, I
> > would be happy to implement it.
>
> So I tried to look for the usage site of this and I found this usage
> in
> your v1:
>
> + let mut leds = KPinnedVec::with_capacity(
> + Atmega1608LedAddress::VALUES.len() *
> Atmega1608LedId::VALUES.len(),
> + GFP_KERNEL,
> + )?;
> +
> + let mut i = 0;
> + for addr in Atmega1608LedAddress::VALUES {
> + let mode_lock = Arc::pin_init(new_mutex!(()),
> GFP_KERNEL)?;
> +
> + for id in Atmega1608LedId::VALUES {
> + let Some(child) =
> +
> fwnode.get_child_by_name(&CString::try_from_fmt(fmt!("led@{i}"))?)
> + else {
> + continue;
> + };
> +
> + let client = ARef::clone(&client);
> + let mode_lock = Arc::clone(&mode_lock);
> +
> + leds.push_pin_init(LedClassDev::new(
> + Some(idev),
> + None,
> + LedInitData::new().fwnode(&child),
> + Atmega1608Led {
> + addr,
> + id,
> + client,
> +
> + mode_lock,
> + },
> + ))?;
> + i += 1;
> + }
> + }
> + Ok(KBox::new(Self { client, leds }, GFP_KERNEL)?.into())
>
> And I think using `Vec` for this is just wrong. `Vec` is a data
> structure that supports growing and shrinking the allocation. But you
> just need a fixed size buffer that holds all your data. Do you think
> that `Pin<Box<[LedClassDev]>>` would suffice if it had proper support
> from pin-init?
As you can see in v1, the number of leds (or vec entries) depends on
the fwnode (see the continue statement there). I don't think that
counts as fixed size. `Pin<KBox<[Option<LedClassDev>]>>` could
potentially be used instead of `Pin<KVec<LedClassDev>>` in my scenario,
but that would require an extra byte of allocation for the max leds of
24 each and the code would look more ugly. At the point I use Option in
the slice, its basically an unoptimized Vec (instead of storing the
length, it stores if an item in the buffer is present or not).
>
> Also, please don't top-post [1] and take a look at your mail client
> configuration, it puts lots of extra `> ` at the end which looks
> pretty
> strange [2].
Yes, I did notice that. It is not present when writing a reply, but
after it got sent for some reason (most replies, not all). It is GNOME
Evolution in its default settings basically. My distro ships a 4 months
outdated version (3.56.2), which shouldn't be too old, but I will
investiage.
Thanks
- Markus Probst
>
> [1]:
> https://docs.kernel.org/process/submitting-patches.html#use-trimmed-interleaved-replies-in-email-discussions
> [2]:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/e550b0862e9ea87e50688d1ec8f623638d170a3a.camel@posteo.de
>
> ---
> Cheers,
> Benno
>
> > Thanks
> > - Markus Probst
> >
> > On Sun, 2025-10-12 at 18:26 +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> > > On Sun Oct 12, 2025 at 4:52 PM CEST, Markus Probst wrote:
> > > > @@ -109,6 +111,21 @@ pub struct Vec<T, A: Allocator> {
> > > > _p: PhantomData<A>,
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > +/// Extension for Pin<Vec<T, A>>
> > > > +pub trait PinnedVecExt<T> {
> > >
> > > Why is this an extension trait? Couldn't we directly implement
> > > this
> > > on
> > > `Vec<T>` with `self: Pin<&mut Self>`?
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Cheers,
> > > Benno
> > >
> > > > + /// Pin-initializes P and appends it to the back of the
> > > > [`Vec`] instance without reallocating.
> > > > + fn push_pin_init<E: From<PushError<P>>, P: PinInit<T,
> > > > E>>(&mut
> > > > self, init: P) -> Result<(), E>;
> > > > +
> > > > + /// Shortens the vector, setting the length to `len` and
> > > > drops
> > > > the removed values.
> > > > + /// If `len` is greater than or equal to the current
> > > > length,
> > > > this does nothing.
> > > > + ///
> > > > + /// This has no effect on the capacity and will not
> > > > allocate.
> > > > + fn truncate(&mut self, len: usize);
> > > > +
> > > > + /// Removes the last element from a vector and drops it
> > > > returning true, or false if it is empty.
> > > > + fn pop(&mut self) -> bool;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > /// Type alias for [`Vec`] with a [`Kmalloc`] allocator.
> > > > ///
> > > > /// # Examples
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-12 22:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-12 14:52 [PATCH v4 0/2] rust: leds: add led classdev abstractions Markus Probst
2025-10-12 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] rust: add basic Pin<Vec<T, A>> abstractions Markus Probst
2025-10-12 16:26 ` Benno Lossin
2025-10-12 16:57 ` Markus Probst
2025-10-12 21:31 ` Benno Lossin
2025-10-12 22:11 ` Markus Probst [this message]
2025-10-13 8:03 ` Benno Lossin
2025-10-13 9:22 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-10-13 9:39 ` Benno Lossin
2025-10-13 13:43 ` Markus Probst
2025-10-13 14:47 ` Benno Lossin
2025-10-14 14:15 ` Markus Probst
2025-10-12 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] rust: leds: add basic led classdev abstractions Markus Probst
2025-10-13 18:34 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-10-13 20:11 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-14 14:46 ` Markus Probst
2025-10-15 13:44 ` Markus Probst
2025-10-15 14:52 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-15 15:02 ` Markus Probst
2025-10-15 17:27 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-12 16:27 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] rust: leds: add " Benno Lossin
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