From: "Ray Lee" <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>
To: "Rene Herman" <rene.herman@gmail.com>
Cc: "Bodo Eggert" <7eggert@gmx.de>, "Matt Mackall" <mpm@selenic.com>,
"Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy@goop.org>,
"Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"William Lee Irwin III" <wli@holomorphy.com>,
"David Chinner" <dgc@sgi.com>,
"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...?
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:40:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c0942db0707161640h3c3afd7avecd7b3c61c4e7df1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <469BFDA7.1040204@gmail.com>
On 7/16/07, Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/17/2007 01:13 AM, Ray Lee wrote:
> > Given that there's actual, y'know, reports of people who can easily
> > crash a 4k+interrupt stacks kernel, and not an 8k one, I think the
> > current evidence speaks for itself.
>
> Where?
The second message in this thread, according to my reader, from Zan
Lynx. Another from Utz Lehmann a few minutes ago.
> > The point remains that the burden of proof of the safety of the 4k only
> > option is upon those people who want to remove the 8k option.
>
> Removing any such option was not the objective of this thread, just lifting
> 4K stacks from debug and making it the default.
True, but your messages are reading as advocacy for removing the 8k
option. I'm saying that's a bad idea. If I misunderstood your
position, then my bad.
> People fortunate enough to
> use workloads where some piece of crap code by accident works more often
> with the current shared 8K stacks then it does with the unshared 4K stacks
> can then still nicely not select it (or fix the code if possible).
If they even realize that it's the cause of the problem. In the
meantime, we're generating more bug reports to lkml. As the general
opinion is that the ones getting received now aren't getting enough
attention (see regression tracking threads), setting a default that is
known to break setups in hard to debug ways seems counterproductive.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-16 23:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-07-15 17:17 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-15 17:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-15 18:32 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-15 17:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 13:43 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:37 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 22:53 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:15 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-18 0:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 6:39 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 17:01 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-17 23:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-18 0:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:42 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-19 19:34 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19 20:04 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:55 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:07 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:12 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:27 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 2:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 16:54 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 17:17 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 0:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 0:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 1:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 1:37 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 1:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 11:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 11:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 13:02 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:31 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-01 3:53 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-08-01 8:11 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-01 10:04 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-10 4:51 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-10 4:59 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-01 13:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-01 15:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10 1:03 ` Dan Merillat
2007-07-19 9:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-27 13:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:18 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 0:41 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 0:48 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 1:28 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:13 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:35 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:40 ` Ray Lee [this message]
2007-07-17 0:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 16:14 ` Shawn Bohrer
2007-07-17 16:52 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 17:45 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-18 0:16 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 23:45 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 0:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 10:06 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 14:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 23:19 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-19 17:20 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 17:05 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:26 ` utz lehmann
2007-07-16 23:39 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-17 1:00 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 14:45 ` John Stoffel
2007-07-17 23:46 ` utz lehmann
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2007-07-18 8:37 ` Nick Craig-Wood
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2007-07-19 13:37 ` Bodo Eggert
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2007-07-18 11:09 ` Nick Craig-Wood
2007-07-11 17:16 Jesper Juhl
2007-07-11 17:54 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-11 20:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-11 22:09 ` Neil Brown
2007-07-12 3:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-12 4:16 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 4:59 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-12 20:24 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 0:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 2:25 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 4:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 9:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-13 13:20 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-14 19:17 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-14 22:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:38 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-17 13:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:19 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:33 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-14 19:42 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-12 6:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12 6:37 ` David Chinner
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