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From: "Dan Merillat" <dan.merillat@gmail.com>
To: "Eric Sandeen" <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: "Satyam Sharma" <satyam.sharma@gmail.com>,
	"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Andrea Arcangeli" <andrea@suse.de>,
	"Matt Mackall" <mpm@selenic.com>,
	"Rene Herman" <rene.herman@gmail.com>,
	"Ray Lee" <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>, "Bodo Eggert" <7eggert@gmx.de>,
	"Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy@goop.org>,
	"Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"William Lee Irwin III" <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	"David Chinner" <dgc@sgi.com>,
	"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...?
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 04:11:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a56dfcf00708010111n4b862a11wf91fe9677ee46143@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B003A3.1090507@sandeen.net>

On 7/31/07, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net> wrote:

> No, what I had did only that, so it was still a matter of probabilities...

How expensive would it be to allocate two , then use the MMU mark the
second page unwritable? Hardware wise it should be possible,  (for
constant 4k pagesizes, I have not worked with variable pagesize MMUs)
and since it's a per-context-switch constant operation, it would be a
special case in the fault handler rather then adding another entry to
the VM for every process.

Using large hardware pages to cover the kernel mapping could be worked
around by leaving the area where the current process stack resides
mapped via 4k pages.  Of course, I haven't touched a modern PC MMU in
ages, so I could be missing something fundamentally difficult.

The other issue is with the layered IO design - no matter what we
configure the stack size to, it is still possible to create a set of
translation layers that will cause it to crash regularly:  XFS on
dm_crypt on loop on XFS on dm_crypt on loop on ad infinitum.

That said, I'm missing something here - why is the stack growing?
Filesystems should be issuing bios with callbacks, so they should be
back off the stack, same with dm, loop, etc.   Am I missing step where
they use a wrapper function that pretends to be syncronous?

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-01  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-07-15 17:35                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-15 18:32                   ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-15 17:46                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 13:43                   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:28                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:37                       ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 22:54                         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 22:53                           ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:05                             ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:15                               ` Ray Lee
2007-07-18  0:14                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18  6:39                                   ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 17:01                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-17 23:39                             ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-18  0:22                               ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:54                         ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:01                           ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:42                           ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:51                             ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-19 19:34                             ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19 20:04                               ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:55                         ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:07                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:12                             ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:27                               ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:32                                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18  2:38                                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 16:54                                   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 17:17                                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19  0:15                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19  0:39                                   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19  1:33                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19  1:37                                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19  1:56                                         ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 11:24                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 11:44                                           ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 13:02                                             ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:38                                               ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:31                                                 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-01  3:53                                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2007-08-01  8:11                                                     ` Dan Merillat [this message]
2007-08-01 10:04                                                       ` Neil Brown
2007-08-10  4:51                                                         ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-10  4:59                                                           ` Neil Brown
2007-08-01 13:33                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-01 15:44                                                         ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10  1:03                                                           ` Dan Merillat
2007-07-19  9:23                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:52                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-27 13:03                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:18                                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19  0:41                                   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19  0:48                                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19  1:28                                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:13                           ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:22                             ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:35                               ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:40                               ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17  0:57                                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 16:14                                   ` Shawn Bohrer
2007-07-17 16:52                                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 17:45                                       ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-18  0:16                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 23:45                           ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17  0:28                             ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 10:06                               ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 14:38                                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 23:19                                   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:29                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-19 17:20                                       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:57                                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 17:05                                       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:26                       ` utz lehmann
2007-07-16 23:39                         ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-17  1:00                         ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 14:45                         ` John Stoffel
2007-07-17 23:46                           ` utz lehmann
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2007-07-19 13:37                         ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-11 17:16 Jesper Juhl
2007-07-11 17:54 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-11 20:05   ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-11 22:09     ` Neil Brown
2007-07-12  3:15       ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-12  4:16 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12  4:59 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-12 20:24   ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13  0:34     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13  2:25       ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13  4:14         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13  9:19           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-13 13:20           ` Rene Herman
2007-07-14 19:17             ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-14 22:19               ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:38                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-17 13:46                   ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:19               ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-18 17:32                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:32                 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:33                   ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-14 19:42         ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-12  6:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12  6:37   ` David Chinner

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