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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: phasta@kernel.org, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@igalia.com>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] dma-buf/dma_fence: Make races for dma_fence_is_signaled() less likely
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 12:09:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c59904c-9e04-4d96-94db-aa5306fe40c6@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf3917fb3ba6bd34611f5aff63178d80c13ebc4d.camel@mailbox.org>

On 6/15/26 12:04, Philipp Stanner wrote:
> On Mon, 2026-06-15 at 11:53 +0200, Christian König wrote:
>> On 6/12/26 12:42, Philipp Stanner wrote:
>>> dma_fence_is_signaled() returns whether a fence has been signaled
>>> already. That function contains a fast path opportunistic check which is
>>> not guarded by the lock and, according to Christian, cannot be guarded
>>> by the lock without causing a massive performance regression.
>>>
>>> This now means that dma_fence_is_signaled() can return true WHILE the
>>> fence callbacks are still being executed. This is razy and has lead to
>>> at least one bug solved in:
>>>
>>> commit c8a5d5ea3ba6 ("nouveau: fix client work fence deletion race")
>>>
>>> Make this race impossible, by simply setting the bit only once the
>>> callbacks are actually completed.
>>
>> Groundhog day, that has been suggested before and it simply doesn't work.
>>
>> The flag is intentional set before calling the callbacks because the state needs to be visible.
> 
> It will be visible. Just later.

It must be visible *before* the callbacks are called. The whole idea with the callbacks is that you can install a notification of state change.

>> Just see dma_fence_default_wait() for an example why that approach doesn't work.
> 
> What's the issue? It will be set. Just later. Who is ordering with
> whom?

See the functions dma_fence_default_wait() and dma_fence_default_wait_cb().

It wakes up the sleeping thread which in turn needs to observes the new state.

Regards,
Christian.

> I BTW suggest to write more code comments in the future to document all
> these supposed pitfalls for those who will hack on that code base once
> we have left.
> 
> 
> P.
> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christian.
>>
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Philipp Stanner <phasta@kernel.org>
>>> ---
>>>  drivers/dma-buf/dma-fence.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++--
>>>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-fence.c b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-fence.c
>>> index c7ea1e75d38a..2416cc86ce93 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-fence.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-fence.c
>>> @@ -359,8 +359,19 @@ void dma_fence_signal_timestamp_locked(struct dma_fence *fence,
>>>  
>>>  	dma_fence_assert_held(fence);
>>>  
>>> -	if (unlikely(test_and_set_bit(DMA_FENCE_FLAG_SIGNALED_BIT,
>>> -				      &fence->flags)))
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * First test the bit, so we don't signal an already signaled fence again.
>>> +	 * The lock protects against multiple parties setting the bit. The bit
>>> +	 * is then set at the end of the function.
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * The background is that there is a fast path check in
>>> +	 * dma_fence_is_signaled() which does not use lock protection and can
>>> +	 * return true *while* the fence callbacks are still executing.
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * This fast path check supposedly cannot be guarded by the lock because
>>> +	 * of significant performance regressions.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	if (unlikely(test_bit(DMA_FENCE_FLAG_SIGNALED_BIT, &fence->flags)))
>>>  		return;
>>>  
>>>  	trace_dma_fence_signaled(fence);
>>> @@ -384,6 +395,9 @@ void dma_fence_signal_timestamp_locked(struct dma_fence *fence,
>>>  		INIT_LIST_HEAD(&cur->node);
>>>  		cur->func(fence, cur);
>>>  	}
>>> +
>>> +	// TODO: we need some barrier here, don't we?
>>> +	set_bit(DMA_FENCE_FLAG_SIGNALED_BIT, &fence->flags);
>>>  }
>>>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(dma_fence_signal_timestamp_locked);
>>>  


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-15 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-12 10:42 Philipp Stanner
2026-06-15  9:53 ` Christian König
2026-06-15 10:04   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-15 10:09     ` Christian König [this message]
2026-06-15 10:36       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-15  9:56 ` Gary Guo
2026-06-15 14:16   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-15 11:11 ` Tvrtko Ursulin

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