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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm: x86: disable KVM_FAST_MMIO_BUS
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:00:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e42e64c-f31d-5ccd-2357-1a859cec5b5b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170817011815-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 17/08/2017 00:31, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 11:25:35PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Yes, I agree.  EMULTYPE_SKIP is fine because failed decoding still
>> causes an exception to be injected.  Maybe it's better to gate the
>> EMULTYPE_SKIP emulation on the exit qualification saying this is a write
> 
> I thought it's already limited to writes. I agree that's a reasonable
> limitation in any case.
> 
>> and also not a page table walk---just in case.
> 
> I still don't get it, sorry. Let's assume for the sake of argument
> that it's a PT walk causing the MMIO access. Just why do you think
> that it makes sense to skip the instruction that caused the walk?

I think it doesn't.  I think in that case it's better to skip the fast
write and proceed with full emulation.

>>> It's just that this has been there for 3 years and people have built a
>>> product around this.
>>
>> Around 700 clock cycles?
> 
> About 30% the cost of exit, isn't it?  There are definitely workloads
> where cost of exit gates performance. We didn't work on fast mmio based
> on theoretical assumptions. But maybe I am wrong. We'll see. Jason here
> volunteered to test your patch and we'll see what comes out of it. If
> I'm wrong and it's about 1%, I won't split hairs.

Note that we still get the latency benefit from fast MMIO, and maybe we
can cut a couple hundred clock cycles more---which would benefit all
emulation, not just fast MMIO.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-17  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-16 11:22 Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-16 12:07 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-08-16 13:37   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-16 14:06     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-16 14:17       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-17  8:15   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-08-16 12:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-16 13:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-16 13:16     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-16 13:30       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-16 14:03         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-16 16:50         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-16 17:19           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-16 19:03             ` Radim Krčmář
2017-08-16 19:59               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-16 21:25                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-16 22:31                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-17  9:00                     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2017-08-17 12:14                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-17 13:23                         ` Radim Krčmář
2017-08-17 15:15                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-17 13:51                     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-08-17 15:27                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-16 19:47             ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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