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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>
To: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Raspberry Pi Kernel Maintenance <kernel-list@raspberrypi.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
	Broadcom internal kernel review list
	<bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>,
	oe-kbuild-all@lists.linux.dev, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Naushir Patuck <naush@raspberrypi.com>,
	Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
	kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] media: raspberrypi: Add support for RP1-CFE
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 13:28:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e9a8d32-1f30-4623-b420-44dfc76c1ef0@ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <csfjh3rdhdieemasmfjmvuy4uaypvbct7y7vm2zogdgmglsc56@u7yzkyrbuthz>



On 10/09/2024 13:18, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> Hi Tomi
> 
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 12:56:38PM GMT, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>> On 10/09/2024 12:19, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
>>
>>> However, I think this current patch is correct (assuming the above
>>> reasoning on i2c sensor drivers is correct) and doesn't require
>>> CONFIG_PM, so I would be tempted to keep this version.
>>
>> I think the existence of this discussion alone proves my point that we
>> should only support PM-case, unless !PM is a requirement =).
>>
>> But if you do want to keep !PM:
>>
>> Is there a reason why not mark the device as active with
>> pm_runtime_set_active() after calling pispbe_runtime_resume and before
> 
> cargo-cult ?
> 
>> accessing the device? That feels like the most logical way to use the
>> function, and it would be right regardless whether the core will enable the
>> parents before probe() or not.
> 
> Possibly more accurate, but there's no guarantee it's correct. The
> peripheral might have requirements on the clock or power rails
> enablement order and some might be managed by the parent. I know we're
> talking hypothesis but my point is that there's not correctness
> guarantee we can enforce unless the parent is powered up when the
> device probes ?
> 
> Anyway, I'll defer the call to the group: either keep the patch as it
> is right now on the list, or go full runtime_pm. I understand there is
> no reason to care about !CONFIG_PM but somehow I feel "bad" in listing
> it as a dependency if the peripheral can actually work without it.
> Maybe I should just ignore that feeling ?

The runtime PM is just a software construct, so all peripherals can work 
without it.

I decided to ignore the feeling, very much based on this thread, and 
sent CFE v5 with it depending on PM.

  Tomi


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-10 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-04 11:19 [PATCH v4 0/4] media: raspberrypi: Support RPi5's CFE Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-04 11:19 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] media: uapi: Add meta formats for PiSP FE config and stats Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-04 11:19 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] dt-bindings: media: Add bindings for raspberrypi,rp1-cfe Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-04 11:19 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] media: raspberrypi: Add support for RP1-CFE Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-05 10:50   ` kernel test robot
2024-09-05 11:11     ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-09-09  5:08       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-09  5:22         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-09  9:13           ` Jacopo Mondi
2024-09-09 10:04             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-09 13:29               ` Jacopo Mondi
2024-09-09 13:45                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-09-09 15:52                   ` Sakari Ailus
2024-09-10  9:19                     ` Jacopo Mondi
2024-09-10  9:25                       ` Sakari Ailus
2024-09-10  9:42                         ` Jacopo Mondi
2024-09-10  9:55                           ` Sakari Ailus
2024-09-10 10:06                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-09-10 10:12                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-10  9:56                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-10 10:11                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-09-10 10:21                           ` Sakari Ailus
2024-09-10 10:26                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2024-09-10 10:18                         ` Jacopo Mondi
2024-09-10 10:28                           ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
2024-09-04 11:19 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] media: admin-guide: Document the Raspberry Pi CFE (rp1-cfe) Tomi Valkeinen

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