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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, john.p.donnelly@oracle.com,
	"Hillf Danton" <hdanton@sina.com>,
	"Mukesh Ojha" <quic_mojha@quicinc.com>,
	"Ting11 Wang 王婷" <wangting11@xiaomi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] locking/rwsem: Prevent non-first waiter from spinning in down_write() slowpath
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 09:50:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e9e8224-18c3-697e-aa8a-c485986d0cea@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1aQdlf7E7OgwoqO@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 10/24/22 09:17, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 05:13:52PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> A non-first waiter can potentially spin in the for loop of
>> rwsem_down_write_slowpath() without sleeping but fail to acquire the
>> lock even if the rwsem is free if the following sequence happens:
>>
>>    Non-first waiter       First waiter      Lock holder
>>    ----------------       ------------      -----------
>>    Acquire wait_lock
>>    rwsem_try_write_lock():
>>      Set handoff bit if RT or
>>        wait too long
>>      Set waiter->handoff_set
>>    Release wait_lock
>>                           Acquire wait_lock
>>                           Inherit waiter->handoff_set
>>                           Release wait_lock
>> 					   Clear owner
>>                                             Release lock
>>    if (waiter.handoff_set) {
>>      rwsem_spin_on_owner(();
>>      if (OWNER_NULL)
>>        goto trylock_again;
>>    }
>>    trylock_again:
>>    Acquire wait_lock
>>    rwsem_try_write_lock():
>>       if (first->handoff_set && (waiter != first))
>>       	return false;
>>    Release wait_lock
>>
>> It is especially problematic if the non-first waiter is an RT task and
>> it is running on the same CPU as the first waiter as this can lead to
>> live lock.
> I'm struggling to connect the Changelog to the actual patch. I see the
> problem, but I don't see how the below helps or is even related to the
> described problem.

Sorry if the description isn't clear, I will rephrase it to make it 
clearer. The basic idea is that a non-first waiter can mistakenly 
believe that it can spin on the lock. However, when 
rwsem_try_write_lock() is called, it can never acquire the lock and move 
on because it is not the first waiter:

                        if (first->handoff_set && (waiter != first))
                                 return false;

If that waiter happen to be an RT task, it can block the real first 
waiter to acquire the lock if it happen to run the same CPU.

Cheers,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-24 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-17 21:13 [PATCH v3 0/5] lockinig/rwsem: Fix rwsem bugs & enable true lock handoff Waiman Long
2022-10-17 21:13 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] locking/rwsem: Prevent non-first waiter from spinning in down_write() slowpath Waiman Long
2022-10-24 13:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 13:50     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2022-10-17 21:13 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] locking/rwsem: Limit # of null owner retries for handoff writer Waiman Long
2022-10-24 13:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 15:55     ` Waiman Long
2022-10-25 11:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-25 11:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-25 19:55           ` Waiman Long
2022-10-25 20:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-26  1:44               ` Waiman Long
     [not found]         ` <20221025145843.2953-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-25 19:00           ` Waiman Long
2022-10-17 21:13 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] locking/rwsem: Change waiter->hanodff_set to a handoff_state enum Waiman Long
2022-10-17 21:13 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] locking/rwsem: Enable direct rwsem lock handoff Waiman Long
2022-10-17 21:13 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] locking/rwsem: Update handoff lock events tracking Waiman Long
     [not found] ` <20221018111424.1007-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-18 14:13   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] locking/rwsem: Enable direct rwsem lock handoff Mukesh Ojha
2022-10-18 17:37     ` Waiman Long
     [not found]     ` <20221018235138.1088-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-19  0:39       ` Waiman Long
     [not found]       ` <20221019022934.1166-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-19  2:49         ` Waiman Long
     [not found]         ` <20221019070559.1220-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-19 15:02           ` Waiman Long
2022-10-24 16:18       ` Waiman Long

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