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From: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Esben Haabendal <esben@geanix.com>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Rengarajan S <rengarajan.s@microchip.com>,
	Jeff Johnson <quic_jjohnson@quicinc.com>,
	Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>,
	Lino Sanfilippo <l.sanfilippo@kunbus.com>,
	Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tty-next v3 1/6] serial: 8250: Adjust the timeout for FIFO mode
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 07:34:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2fab2ef8-d0d6-4b94-90b6-7c16641a2f68@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2410310349450.40463@angie.orcam.me.uk>

On 31. 10. 24, 5:44, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2024, Jiri Slaby wrote:
> 
>>> @@ -3306,13 +3310,18 @@ static void serial8250_console_restore(struct
>>> uart_8250_port *up)
>>>    static void serial8250_console_fifo_write(struct uart_8250_port *up,
>>>    					  const char *s, unsigned int count)
>>>    {
>>> -	int i;
>>>    	const char *end = s + count;
>>>    	unsigned int fifosize = up->tx_loadsz;
>>> +	unsigned int tx_count = 0;
>>>    	bool cr_sent = false;
>>> +	unsigned int i;
>>>      	while (s != end) {
>>> -		wait_for_lsr(up, UART_LSR_THRE);
>>> +		/* Allow timeout for each byte of a possibly full FIFO. */
>>> +		for (i = 0; i < fifosize; i++) {
>>> +			if (wait_for_lsr(up, UART_LSR_THRE))
>>> +				break;
>>> +		}
>>
>> THRE only signals there is a space for one character.
> 
>   Nope[1]:
> 
> "In the FIFO mode, THRE is set when the transmit FIFO is empty; it is
> cleared when at least one byte is written to the transmit FIFO."

Hmm, I was confused by NXP's 16c650b [1] datasheet then (or I cannot parse):
===
The THR empty flag in the LSR register will be set to a logic 1 when the 
transmitter is empty or when data is transferred to the TSR. Note that a 
write operation can be performed when the THR empty flag is set
(logic 0 = FIFO full; logic 1 = at least one FIFO location available).
===

But indeed in the LSR[5] bit description, they state:
===
In the FIFO mode, this bit is set when the transmit FIFO is
empty; it is cleared when at least 1 byte is written to the transmit FIFO.
===

Anyway, it still does not answer the original question: Instead of 
looping fifosize multiplied by random timeout, can we re-use 
port->frame_time?

[1] SC16C650B -- 5 V, 3.3 V and 2.5 V UART with 32-byte FIFOs and 
infrared (IrDA) encoder/decoder; Rev. 04 — 14 September 2009; Product 
data sheet

>>> +	/* Allow timeout for each byte written. */
>>> +	for (i = 0; i < tx_count; i++) {
>>> +		if (wait_for_lsr(up, UART_LSR_THRE))
>>
>> This ensures you sent one character from the FIFO. The FIFO still can contain
>> plenty of them. Did you want UART_LSR_TEMT?
> 
>   The difference between THRE and TEMT is the state of the shift register
> only[2]:
> 
> "In the FIFO mode, TEMT is set when the transmitter FIFO and shift
> register are both empty."

Sure. The question still holds:

 > But what's the purpose of spinning _here_? The kernel can run and 
FIFO too. Without the kernel waiting for the FIFO.

If we want to wait for fifo to empty, why not *also* the TSR. Meaning:

 > Did you want UART_LSR_TEMT?

thanks,
-- 
js
suse labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-25 10:57 [PATCH tty-next v3 0/6] convert 8250 to nbcon John Ogness
2024-10-25 10:57 ` [PATCH tty-next v3 1/6] serial: 8250: Adjust the timeout for FIFO mode John Ogness
2024-10-25 13:45   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-25 13:51     ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-29 16:24     ` Wander Lairson Costa
2024-10-30  6:05   ` Jiri Slaby
2024-10-31  4:44     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-31  8:49       ` John Ogness
2024-11-01  1:24         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-11-01  8:21           ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-04  6:44         ` Jiri Slaby
2024-11-04  6:34       ` Jiri Slaby [this message]
2024-11-04 14:13         ` John Ogness
2024-12-02  6:12           ` Jiri Slaby
2024-12-02 16:41             ` John Ogness
2024-12-01  0:04         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-25 10:57 ` [PATCH tty-next v3 2/6] serial: 8250: Use high-level write function for FIFO John Ogness
2024-10-25 13:50   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-05 16:12   ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-25 10:57 ` [PATCH tty-next v3 3/6] serial: 8250: Split out rx stop/start code into helpers John Ogness
2024-10-25 13:55   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-06 10:54   ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-25 10:57 ` [PATCH tty-next v3 4/6] serial: 8250: Specify console context for rs485_start/stop_tx John Ogness
2024-10-25 14:04   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-25 14:25     ` John Ogness
2024-10-25 14:34       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-30  6:13   ` Jiri Slaby
2024-10-31  9:13     ` John Ogness
2024-11-06 15:42   ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-29 17:45     ` John Ogness
2024-10-25 10:57 ` [PATCH tty-next v3 5/6] serial: 8250: Switch to nbcon console John Ogness
2024-10-25 14:22   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-28 13:22     ` John Ogness
2024-11-07  9:48       ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-30  6:33   ` Jiri Slaby
2024-10-31  9:25     ` John Ogness
2024-10-25 10:57 ` [PATCH tty-next v3 6/6] serial: 8250: Revert "drop lockdep annotation from serial8250_clear_IER()" John Ogness
2024-10-25 14:05   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-25 13:58 ` [PATCH tty-next v3 0/6] convert 8250 to nbcon Andy Shevchenko

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