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From: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
To: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/10] mm/shmem_luo: Don't make early retrieve failures permanent
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2026 15:14:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2vxzo6c2hwsa.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <auuxi10mmCQrq-y2@google.com> (David Matlack's message of "Wed, 4 Nov 2026 22:28:27 +0000")

On Wed, Nov 04 2026, David Matlack wrote:

> On 2026-11-04 04:01 PM, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 03 2026, David Matlack wrote:
>> 
>> > Mark failures in shmem_luo_retrieve() before it starts restoring the
>> > folios as retryable, and return the error without freeing the serialized
>> > state. If no retrieve succeeds, finish() frees the preserved folios,
>> > like it does for a file that was never retrieved.
>> >
>> > Nothing has consumed the preserved state before the folios are
>> > restored, so the retrieve can be tried again.
>> >
>> > This also fixes leaking the preserved folios when one of these early
>> > steps fails, e.g. because the file has seals that this kernel doesn't
>> > support. The retrieve freed the serialized state but not the folios, and
>> > finish() then skipped the file because its retrieve had failed. There is
>> > no Fixes tag, since the fix relies on args->retryable, which was only
>> > added earlier in this series.
>> 
>> If the seals don't match, the retrieve is not retryable. It will always
>> fail.
>> 
>> I think the only retriable part is memfd_alloc_file(), although even
>> that is quite unlikely to fail. But I think that also fits pretty well
>> with the most important type of error you want to retry on, which is bad
>> arguments. In later patches, you check the argument on
>> shmem_luo_create_tmpfs_file() or shmem_luo_create_memfd(), so perhaps
>> set retriable in those functions?
>
> When retryable is set, LUO leaves the file unretrieved and finish()
> frees the preserved folios. If the seal failure did not set retryable,
> finish() would skip the file and the folios would leak.

Yes, but in that case you free the folios on the error path of
retrieve().

>
> In v4 I can move the seal checks into shmem_luo_create_memfd() and
> shmem_luo_create_tmpfs_file(), since the valid seals differ between the
> two, and reword the commit message so it doesn't suggest that a bad seal
> can be fixed by retrying.

I think it is important to signal to _userspace_ too that bad seals
aren't retriable either. So I would really suggest doing some sort of
non-retriable errors for bad payloads.

-- 
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-06 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-03  1:02 [PATCH v3 00/10] liveupdate: Preserve tmpfs files across Live Update David Matlack
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] liveupdate: Pass user argument to file preserve and retrieve David Matlack
2026-11-04 13:17   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] selftests: liveupdate: Add tests for preserve and retrieve user argument David Matlack
2026-11-04 13:26   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] liveupdate: Allow file handlers to mark retrieve failures as retryable David Matlack
2026-11-04 14:12   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 16:15     ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] mm: Rename memfd_luo to shmem_luo David Matlack
2026-11-04 14:25   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] liveupdate: Don't WARN if tracking a retrieved file fails David Matlack
2026-11-04 14:32   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] mm/shmem_luo: Don't make early retrieve failures permanent David Matlack
2026-11-04 15:01   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 22:28     ` David Matlack
2026-11-06 14:14       ` Pratyush Yadav [this message]
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] mm/shmem_luo: Retrieve tmpfs files onto a tmpfs mount chosen by userspace David Matlack
2026-11-04  0:43   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:27   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 22:30     ` David Matlack
2026-11-06 14:20       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] mm/shmem_luo: Allow preserving tmpfs files that are still linked David Matlack
2026-11-04  0:43   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:45   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 22:32     ` David Matlack
2026-11-04 23:38     ` David Matlack
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] mm/shmem_luo: Allow retrieving tmpfs files with O_RDONLY David Matlack
2026-11-04  0:43   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:52   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 19:45     ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 22:35       ` David Matlack
2026-11-06 14:11         ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] selftests/liveupdate: Add a test for preserving tmpfs files David Matlack
2026-11-04  0:43   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:59   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 19:37     ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 22:42       ` David Matlack
2026-11-06 14:19         ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-05 15:42 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] liveupdate: Preserve tmpfs files across Live Update Christian Brauner
2026-11-05 16:52   ` David Matlack

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