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From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
Cc: kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
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	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	 Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	 Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>,
	 Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 08/10] mm/shmem_luo: Allow preserving tmpfs files that are still linked
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:43:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <179375302574.727293.677909304544098007.b4-review@b4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261103010216.3447716-9-dmatlack@google.com>

> Allow preserving tmpfs files that are still linked. To preserve any
> file, require permission to write to it and the file to be opened for
> reading, and reject append-only files.
> 
> shmem_luo already accepts any shmem file without links, which includes
> unlinked tmpfs files and files created with O_TMPFILE. Accepting linked
> files means that userspace doesn't have to unlink files to preserve them
> and can keep using them by path until the live update.
> 
> The path of the file isn't preserved. Like other files from tmpfs
> mounts, a linked file is retrieved onto a tmpfs mount chosen by
> userspace, which can then link it at the path it wants.
> 
> While a file is preserved, its size is frozen, so truncating it,
> fallocate() and writes past its end fail with -EPERM. For a linked file,
> this affects everyone who opens the file by its path, so a caller that
> can only read the file, e.g. a world-readable file in /dev/shm, could
> use it to break the owner of the file. So require permission to write to
> the file to preserve it, for all files. Like FS_IOC_ENABLE_VERITY, don't
> require a file opened for writing, so that binaries that are being
> executed can still be preserved through read-only fds. Also don't
> require a writable mount, since preserving a file doesn't write to the
> filesystem. If the size of the file can't change anyway, because it is
> immutable or on a read-only superblock, also let its owner preserve it.
> Don't let others do that, since the size could change again once the
> file is made writable. Like FS_IOC_ENABLE_VERITY, reject append-only
> files, since their writers can only append to them, and freezing their
> size would stop all appends.
> 
> Also like FS_IOC_ENABLE_VERITY, require the file to be opened for
> reading. The retrieved file can be read, so otherwise a caller that can
> only write to a file could preserve it to read its contents.
> 
> Preserving a file also fills its holes, but don't require any permission
> for that. Anyone who can read a tmpfs file can already fill its holes by
> faulting them in through a read-only mapping, also on read-only mounts
> and for immutable files.
> 
> Document the frozen size and the permission requirements.
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
> Link: https://patch.msgid.link/20261103010216.3447716-9-dmatlack@google.com

Acked-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>

-- 
Pasha


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-04  0:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-03  1:02 [PATCH v3 00/10] liveupdate: Preserve tmpfs files across Live Update David Matlack
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] liveupdate: Pass user argument to file preserve and retrieve David Matlack
2026-11-04 13:17   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] selftests: liveupdate: Add tests for preserve and retrieve user argument David Matlack
2026-11-04 13:26   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] liveupdate: Allow file handlers to mark retrieve failures as retryable David Matlack
2026-11-04 14:12   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 16:15     ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] mm: Rename memfd_luo to shmem_luo David Matlack
2026-11-04 14:25   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] liveupdate: Don't WARN if tracking a retrieved file fails David Matlack
2026-11-04 14:32   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] mm/shmem_luo: Don't make early retrieve failures permanent David Matlack
2026-11-04 15:01   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 22:28     ` David Matlack
2026-11-06 14:14       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] mm/shmem_luo: Retrieve tmpfs files onto a tmpfs mount chosen by userspace David Matlack
2026-11-04  0:43   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:27   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 22:30     ` David Matlack
2026-11-06 14:20       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] mm/shmem_luo: Allow preserving tmpfs files that are still linked David Matlack
2026-11-04  0:43   ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2026-11-04 16:45   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 22:32     ` David Matlack
2026-11-04 23:38     ` David Matlack
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] mm/shmem_luo: Allow retrieving tmpfs files with O_RDONLY David Matlack
2026-11-04  0:43   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:52   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 19:45     ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 22:35       ` David Matlack
2026-11-06 14:11         ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-03  1:02 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] selftests/liveupdate: Add a test for preserving tmpfs files David Matlack
2026-11-04  0:43   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 16:59   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-04 19:37     ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-11-04 22:42       ` David Matlack
2026-11-06 14:19         ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-05 15:42 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] liveupdate: Preserve tmpfs files across Live Update Christian Brauner
2026-11-05 16:52   ` David Matlack
2026-11-10 15:45     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-11-10 18:56       ` David Matlack

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