From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
yannik@sembritzki.me, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
Justin Forbes <jforbes@redhat.com>,
Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix kexec forbidding kernels signed with custom platform keys to boot
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:49:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <30607.1534434597@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1534432615.3166.5.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> wrote:
> > The problem with that is that it means you can't load third party
> > modules - such as the NVidia driver. That's fine if you absolutely
> > reject the right of people to produce third party drivers for the
> > Linux kernel and absolutely require that they open and upstream their
> > code if they want in.
>
> So if you build your own kernel and want to load the nVidia module, you
> have the key to sign it.
I think you have to assume that doing this is beyond most people. Further, as
a distribution we would prefer people didn't raise bugs against kernels that
we didn't build.
> If you're a distribution and want third party modules to be loaded you can
> set up a third party signing process using a distro key ... I don't see what
> the big problem is.
That's the problem is right there. AIUI, we *don't* want to set up a third
party signing process. As I said, it potentially comes with lawyers attached.
> So your lawyers tell you if you sign a third party module for your
> kernel then you could get blamed for the damage it causes?
There's more to it than that, but I feel I should discuss it with our legal
dept. before airing it here.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-16 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-15 10:00 Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-15 17:27 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 17:37 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 17:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2018-08-15 18:44 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 18:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2018-08-15 19:06 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 19:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2018-08-15 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-15 20:53 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-15 21:08 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 21:13 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-15 21:31 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 21:40 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-15 21:50 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 21:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2018-08-15 22:14 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 21:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2018-08-15 21:57 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-15 21:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-16 13:51 ` David Howells
2018-08-16 15:16 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-16 15:42 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-16 15:49 ` David Howells [this message]
2018-08-16 15:56 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-16 16:56 ` David Laight
2018-08-16 17:15 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-16 20:31 ` David Howells
2018-08-17 0:07 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-17 8:24 ` David Howells
2018-08-17 14:58 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-17 15:42 ` Justin Forbes
2018-08-17 16:02 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-16 0:52 ` Dave Young
2018-08-16 0:55 ` Dave Young
2018-08-16 12:13 ` David Howells
2018-08-16 14:22 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-16 14:43 ` David Howells
2018-08-16 14:59 ` James Bottomley
2018-08-17 17:00 ` Alan Cox
2018-08-15 17:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-15 18:19 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-15 19:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix kexec forbidding kernels signed with keys in the secondary keyring " Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-16 18:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-15 19:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 19:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] Replace magic for trusting the secondary keyring with #define Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 21:14 ` kbuild test robot
2018-08-15 21:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] [FIXED] " Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-15 22:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-15 22:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] [FIXED v2] " Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-16 1:11 ` Dave Young
2018-08-16 7:43 ` Yannik Sembritzki
2018-08-16 8:02 ` Dave Young
2018-08-16 8:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-08-16 12:46 ` Vivek Goyal
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