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From: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: menglong8.dong@gmail.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	xeb@mail.ru, davem@davemloft.net, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
	imagedong@tencent.com, edumazet@google.com, kafai@fb.com,
	talalahmad@google.com, keescook@chromium.org, alobakin@pm.me,
	flyingpeng@tencent.com, mengensun@tencent.com,
	dongli.zhang@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Biao Jiang <benbjiang@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: gre_demux: add skb drop reasons to gre_rcv()
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 08:56:14 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <30b0991a-8c41-2571-b1b6-9edc7dc9c702@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220315215553.676a5d24@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On 3/15/22 10:55 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 21:49:01 -0600 David Ahern wrote:
>>>>  	ver = skb->data[1]&0x7f;
>>>> -	if (ver >= GREPROTO_MAX)
>>>> +	if (ver >= GREPROTO_MAX) {
>>>> +		reason = SKB_DROP_REASON_GRE_VERSION;  
>>>
>>> TBH I'm still not sure what level of granularity we should be shooting
>>> for with the reasons. I'd throw all unexpected header values into one 
>>> bucket, not go for a reason per field, per protocol. But as I'm said
>>> I'm not sure myself, so we can keep what you have..  
>>
>> I have stated before I do not believe every single drop point in the
>> kernel needs a unique reason code. This is overkill. The reason augments
>> information we already have -- the IP from kfree_skb tracepoint.
> 
> That's certainly true. I wonder if there is a systematic way of
> approaching these additions that'd help us picking the points were 
> we add reasons less of a judgment call.

In my head it's split between OS housekeeping and user visible data.
Housekeeping side of it is more the technical failure points like skb
manipulations - maybe interesting to a user collecting stats about how a
node is performing, but more than likely not. IMHO, those are ignored
for now (NOT_SPECIFIED).

The immediate big win is for packets from a network where an analysis
can show code location (instruction pointer), user focused reason (csum
failure, 'otherhost', no socket open, no socket buffer space, ...) and
traceable to a specific host (headers in skb data).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-16 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-14 13:33 [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: gre: add skb drop reasons to gre packet receive menglong8.dong
2022-03-14 13:33 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: gre_demux: add skb drop reasons to gre_rcv() menglong8.dong
2022-03-16  3:08   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-16  3:49     ` David Ahern
2022-03-16  4:53       ` Menglong Dong
2022-03-16 14:45         ` David Ahern
2022-03-16  4:55       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-16 10:12         ` David Laight
2022-03-16 18:55           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-16 14:56         ` David Ahern [this message]
2022-03-16 18:57           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-16 21:05             ` David Ahern
2022-03-16  4:41     ` Menglong Dong
2022-03-16  4:50       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-14 13:33 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] net: ipgre: make erspan_rcv() return PACKET_NEXT menglong8.dong
2022-03-14 13:33 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] net: ipgre: add skb drop reasons to gre_rcv() menglong8.dong
2022-03-16  3:17   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-16  6:21     ` Menglong Dong
2022-03-16 18:50       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-16 18:51       ` Jakub Kicinski

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