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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: "'Alan Cox'" <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Salvatore Mesoraca <s.mesoraca16@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kernel Hardening" <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 2/2] Protected O_CREAT open in sticky directories
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:53:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33dcc007e92349999ce77bf45825be22@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171122165144.07aea7ac@alans-desktop>

From: Alan Cox
> Sent: 22 November 2017 16:52
> 
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:01:46 +0100
> Salvatore Mesoraca <s.mesoraca16@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Disallows O_CREAT open missing the O_EXCL flag, in world or
> > group writable directories, even if the file doesn't exist yet.
> > With few exceptions (e.g. shared lock files based on flock())
> 
> Enough exceptions to make it a bad idea.
> 
> Firstly if you care this much *stop* having shared writable directories.
> We have namespaces, you don't need them. You can give every user their
> own /tmp etc.

Looks like a very bad idea to me as well.

Doesn't this stop all shell redirects into a shared /tmp ?
I'm pretty sure most programs use O_CREAT | O_TRUNC for output
files - they'll all stop working.

If there are some directories where you need to force O_EXCL you
need to make it a property of the directory, not the kernel.

	David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-24 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-22  8:01 [PATCH v3 0/2] Restrict dangerous " Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-22  8:01 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] Protected FIFOs and regular files Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-23 22:43   ` [kernel-hardening] " Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-24  8:24     ` Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-22  8:01 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] Protected O_CREAT open in sticky directories Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-22 13:22   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-11-24  8:29     ` Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-22 16:51   ` Alan Cox
2017-11-24  8:31     ` Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-24 10:53     ` David Laight [this message]
2017-11-24 11:43       ` Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-24 11:53         ` David Laight
2017-11-26 11:29           ` Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-27  0:26         ` Solar Designer
2017-11-30 14:39           ` Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-30 14:57             ` [kernel-hardening] " Ian Campbell
2017-11-30 16:30               ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2017-12-05 10:21                 ` Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-12-07 21:47                   ` Solar Designer
2017-12-11 12:08                     ` Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-23 22:57   ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-24  8:34     ` Salvatore Mesoraca
2017-11-30 16:53   ` David Laight
2017-11-30 17:51     ` Solar Designer
2017-12-01  9:46       ` David Laight
2017-12-01 15:52         ` Alan Cox

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