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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: karahmed@amazon.de, x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bp@alien8.de, peterz@infradead.org, jmattson@google.com,
	rkrcmar@redhat.com, arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, mingo@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 12:28:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36704ae6-650a-e061-0220-9228173e5d81@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1519125725.7876.117.camel@infradead.org>

On 20/02/2018 12:22, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>>> However, Paolo is very insistent that taking the trap every time is
>>>> actually a lot *slower* than really frobbing IBRS on certain
>>>> microarchitectures, so my hand-waving "pfft, what did they expect?" is
>>>> not acceptable.
>>>>  
>>>> Which I think puts us back to the "throwing the toys out of the pram"
>> There are no more toys in the pram. I threw them all out weeks ago ...
>
> One option is to take the patch as-is¹ with the trap on every access.

Please reword the commit message at least, mentioning that the slow case
is not one we don't care much about yet (no IBRS_ALL CPUs in the wild
afaik) and we won't care much about in the long run either (IBRS_ALL
really only used on a handful of blacklisted processors).

Thanks,

Paolo

> As soon as Intel define that 'IBRS_ALL_AND_THE_BIT_IS_A_NOOP' bit in
> MSR_IA32_ARCH_CAPABILITIES, *then* we can expose it to guests directly
> again just as we do at the moment.
> 
> That way, the slowdown that Paolo is concerned about is limited to a
> small set of current CPUs on which we're mostly unlikely to care too
> much about KVM anyway.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-20 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-19 10:50 [PATCH v3 0/4] Speculation control improvements David Woodhouse
2018-02-19 10:50 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/speculation: Use IBRS if available before calling into firmware David Woodhouse
2018-02-20  7:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 10:29   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-19 10:50 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs David Woodhouse
2018-02-20  8:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20  8:53     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-20 10:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 10:42         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 11:22           ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-20 11:28             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-02-26 19:55             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 11:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-19 10:50 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] Revert "x86/retpoline: Simplify vmexit_fill_RSB()" David Woodhouse
2018-02-20  8:35   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 10:28   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-19 10:50 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] x86/retpoline: Support retpoline build with Clang David Woodhouse
2018-02-20  8:36   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20  8:45     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-20 10:29   ` [tip:x86/pti] x86/retpoline: Support retpoline builds " tip-bot for David Woodhouse

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