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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, karahmed@amazon.de, x86@kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bp@alien8.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	jmattson@google.com, rkrcmar@redhat.com,
	arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	mingo@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 12:26:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79c73482-9509-e67a-da8f-43ba0cb6d0fa@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1519037457-7643-3-git-send-email-dwmw@amazon.co.uk>

On 19/02/2018 11:50, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Cope with this by trapping and emulating *all* access to SPEC_CTRL from
> KVM guests when the IBRS_ALL feature is present, so it can never be
> turned off. Guests who see IBRS_ALL should never do anything except
> turn it on at boot anyway. And if they didn't know about IBRS_ALL and
> they keep frobbing IBRS on every kernel entry/exit... well the vmexit
> for a no-op is probably going to be faster than they were expecting
> anyway, so they'll live.

The problem is, it isn't.  On a Haswell (which has fairly slow
SPEC_CTRL) toggling IBRS is 200 cycles.  This gives a context switch
time of around 2000 clock cycles with PTI enabled.

This is fairly awful, but with a vmexit cost of ~1100 cycles that goes
up to 2000+(1100-200)*2 = 3800.  That's more or less doubling the cost
of a system call.

With newer machines SPEC_CTRL cost goes down but vmexit cost doesn't, so
it's only worse.

For now, we really should do something like

	if (vmx->spec_ctrl != host_spec_ctrl)
		wrmsrl(MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL, host_spec_ctrl);
	else
		lfence();

which later can become

	if (vmx->spec_ctrl != host_spec_ctrl)
		wrmsrl(MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL, host_spec_ctrl);
	else {
		/* lfence not needed if host_spec_ctrl == 0 */
		if (static_cpu_has(BUG_REALLY_WANTS_IBRS))
			nospec_barrier();
	}

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-20 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-19 10:50 [PATCH v3 0/4] Speculation control improvements David Woodhouse
2018-02-19 10:50 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/speculation: Use IBRS if available before calling into firmware David Woodhouse
2018-02-20  7:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 10:29   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-19 10:50 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs David Woodhouse
2018-02-20  8:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20  8:53     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-20 10:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 10:42         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 11:22           ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-20 11:28             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-26 19:55             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 11:26   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-02-19 10:50 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] Revert "x86/retpoline: Simplify vmexit_fill_RSB()" David Woodhouse
2018-02-20  8:35   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 10:28   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-19 10:50 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] x86/retpoline: Support retpoline build with Clang David Woodhouse
2018-02-20  8:36   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20  8:45     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-20 10:29   ` [tip:x86/pti] x86/retpoline: Support retpoline builds " tip-bot for David Woodhouse

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