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From: "ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com" <ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"yangx.jy@fujitsu.com" <yangx.jy@fujitsu.com>,
	"Yasunori Gotou (Fujitsu)" <y-goto@fujitsu.com>,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"nvdimm@lists.linux.dev" <nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"zwisler@kernel.org" <zwisler@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"toshi.kani@hpe.com" <toshi.kani@hpe.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: fail dax mount if reflink is enabled on a partition
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 05:17:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <384341d2-876d-2e61-d791-bad784d3add4@fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2G9k9/XJVQ7yiWN@magnolia>


在 2022/11/2 8:45, Darrick J. Wong 写道:
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 05:31:43PM +0800, Shiyang Ruan wrote:
>>
>>
>> 在 2022/10/28 9:37, Dan Williams 写道:
>>> Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>>>> [add tytso to cc since he asked about "How do you actually /get/ fsdax
>>>> mode these days?" this morning]
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 10:56:19AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 02:26:50PM +0000, ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com wrote:
>>
>> ...skip...
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.  Since the announcement of pmem as a product, I have had 15
>>>>> minutes of acces to one preproduction prototype server with actual
>>>>> optane DIMMs in them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have /never/ had access to real hardware to test any of this, so it's
>>>>> all configured via libvirt to simulate pmem in qemu:
>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/YzXsavOWMSuwTBEC@magnolia/
>>>>>
>>>>> /run/mtrdisk/[gh].mem are both regular files on a tmpfs filesystem:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ grep mtrdisk /proc/mounts
>>>>> none /run/mtrdisk tmpfs rw,relatime,size=82894848k,inode64 0 0
>>>>>
>>>>> $ ls -la /run/mtrdisk/[gh].mem
>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 libvirt-qemu kvm 10739515392 Oct 24 18:09 /run/mtrdisk/g.mem
>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 libvirt-qemu kvm 10739515392 Oct 24 19:28 /run/mtrdisk/h.mem
>>>>
>>>> Also forgot to mention that the VM with the fake pmem attached has a
>>>> script to do:
>>>>
>>>> ndctl create-namespace --mode fsdax --map dev -e namespace0.0 -f
>>>> ndctl create-namespace --mode fsdax --map dev -e namespace1.0 -f
>>>>
>>>> Every time the pmem device gets recreated, because apparently that's the
>>>> only way to get S_DAX mode nowadays?
>>>
>>> If you have noticed a change here it is due to VM configuration not
>>> anything in the driver.
>>>
>>> If you are interested there are two ways to get pmem declared the legacy
>>> way that predates any of the DAX work, the kernel calls it E820_PRAM,
>>> and the modern way by platform firmware tables like ACPI NFIT. The
>>> assumption with E820_PRAM is that it is dealing with battery backed
>>> NVDIMMs of small capacity. In that case the /dev/pmem device can support
>>> DAX operation by default because the necessary memory for the 'struct
>>> page' array for that memory is likely small.
>>>
>>> Platform firmware defined PMEM can be terabytes. So the driver does not
>>> enable DAX by default because the user needs to make policy choice about
>>> burning gigabytes of DRAM for that metadata, or placing it in PMEM which
>>> is abundant, but slower. So what I suspect might be happening is your
>>> configuration changed from something that auto-allocated the 'struct
>>> page' array, to something that needed those commands you list above to
>>> explicitly opt-in to reserving some PMEM capacity for the page metadata.
>>
>> I am using the same simulation environment as Darrick's and Dave's and have
>> tested many times, but still cannot reproduce the failed cases they
>> mentioned (dax+non_reflink mode, currently focuing) until now. Only a few
>> cases randomly failed because of "target is busy". But IIRC, those failed
>> cases you mentioned were failed with dmesg warning around the function
>> "dax_associate_entry()" or "dax_disassociate_entry()". Since I cannot
>> reproduce the failure, it hard for me to continue sovling the problem.
> 
> FWIW things have calmed down as of 6.1-rc3 -- if I disable reflink,
> fstests runs without complaint.  Now it only seems to be affecting
> reflink=1 filesystems. >
>> And how is your recent test?  Still failed with those dmesg warnings? If so,
>> could you zip the test result and send it to me?
> 
> https://djwong.org/docs/kernel/daxbad.zip

Thanks for your info!


(To Dave) I need your recent test result too.  If cases won't fail when 
reflink disabled, I'll focusing on solving the warning when reflink enabled.


--
Thanks,
Ruan.

> 
> --D
> 
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Ruan

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-02  5:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09 14:34 Shiyang Ruan
2022-06-10  5:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-01  0:31 ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-07-01  5:14   ` Shiyang Ruan
2022-07-21 12:43     ` ruansy.fnst
2022-07-21 14:06   ` ruansy.fnst
2022-07-21 16:16     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-07-29  3:55       ` ruansy.fnst
2022-07-29  4:54         ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-03  6:47           ` ruansy.fnst
2022-08-04  0:51             ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-04  1:36               ` Shiyang Ruan
2022-09-08 13:46               ` Shiyang Ruan
2022-09-09 13:01                 ` Brian Foster
2022-09-14  6:44                   ` Yang, Xiao/杨 晓
2022-09-14  9:38                     ` Yang, Xiao/杨 晓
2022-09-14 12:34                       ` Brian Foster
2022-09-14 16:28                         ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-09-15 10:14                           ` Yang, Xiao/杨 晓
2022-09-16  2:04                             ` Yang, Xiao/杨 晓
2022-09-20  2:38                               ` Yang, Xiao/杨 晓
2022-09-30  0:56                                 ` Gotou, Yasunori/五島 康文
2022-10-04  0:12                                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-10-04  4:12                                     ` Gotou, Yasunori/五島 康文
2022-10-04 18:26                                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-10-20 14:17                                         ` Yang, Xiao/杨 晓
2022-10-22  2:11                                           ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]                                             ` <09f522cd-e846-12ee-d662-14f34a2977c4@fujitsu.com>
2022-10-23  7:04                                               ` yangx.jy
2022-10-23 22:00                                             ` Dave Chinner
2022-10-24  3:17                                               ` ruansy.fnst
2022-10-24  4:05                                                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-10-24  5:31                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2022-10-25 14:26                                                   ` ruansy.fnst
2022-10-25 17:56                                                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-10-27 21:08                                                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-10-28  1:37                                                         ` Dan Williams
2022-10-30  9:31                                                           ` Shiyang Ruan
2022-11-02  0:45                                                             ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-02  5:17                                                               ` ruansy.fnst [this message]
2022-11-03  2:32                                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2022-10-24 17:12                                               ` Dan Williams

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