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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	bristot@redhat.com, vschneid@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: remove util_est boosting
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:09:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39d63092-0e1d-2a0b-37e4-eea6789f8055@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtC2NyZcVukzsYAEdhyxv__AURVuJ1JUoh8NGBmq0mL1hQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/07/2023 17:30, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 17:47, Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io> wrote:
>>
>> On 07/06/23 15:51, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>> There is no need to use runnable_avg when estimating util_est and that
>>> even generates wrong behavior because one includes blocked tasks whereas
>>> the other one doesn't. This can lead to accounting twice the waking task p,
>>> once with the blocked runnable_avg and another one when adding its
>>> util_est.

... and we don't have this issue for the util_avg case since we have:

7317         } else if (p && task_cpu(p) != cpu && dst_cpu == cpu)
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
7318                 util += task_util(p);

>>> cpu's runnable_avg is already used when computing util_avg which is then
>>> compared with util_est.

We discussed why I have to use max(X, runnable) for X=util and
X=util_est in v2:

https://lkml.kernel.org/r/251b524a-2c44-3892-1bae-03f879d6a64b@arm.com

-->

I need the util_est = max(util_est, runnable) further down as well. Just
want to fetch runnable only once.

util = 50, task_util = 5, util_est = 60, task_util_est = 10, runnable = 70

max(70 + 5, 60 + 10) != max (70 + 5, 70 + 10) when dst_cpu == cpu

<--

But I assume your point is that:

7327       if (boost)
7328           util_est = max(util_est, runnable);

7356       if (dst_cpu == cpu)                                   <-- (1)
7357           util_est += _task_util_est(p);
7358       else if (p && unlikely(task_on_rq_queued(p) || current == p))
7359           lsub_positive(&util_est, _task_util_est(p));
7360
7361       util = max(util, util_est);

--> (1) doesn't work anymore in case `util_est == runnable`.

It will break the assumption for the if condition depicted in
cpu_util()'s comment:

7331  * During wake-up (2) @p isn't enqueued yet and doesn't contribute
7332  * to any cpu_rq(cpu)->cfs.avg.util_est.enqueued.
7333  * If @dst_cpu == @cpu add it to "simulate" cpu_util after @p
7334  * has been enqueued.

(2) eenv_pd_max_util() and find_energy_efficient_cpu() call-site.

<---

Rerunning Jankbench tests on Pix6 will tell if boosting util_avg instead
of both will still show the anticipated results. Likelihood is high that
it will since we do `util = max(util, util_est)` at the end of cpu_util().

>>> In some situation, feec will not select prev_cpu but another one on the
>>> same performance domain because of higher max_util
>>>
>>> Fixes: 7d0583cf9ec7 ("sched/fair, cpufreq: Introduce 'runnable boosting'")
>>> Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
>>> ---
>>
>> Can we verify the numbers that introduced this magic boost are still valid
>> please?
> 
> TBH I don't expect it but I agree it's worth checking. Dietmar could
> you rerun your tests with this change ?

Could do. But first lets understand the issue properly.

>> Otherwise LGTM.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Qais Yousef
>>
>>>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 3 ---
>>>  1 file changed, 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>> index a80a73909dc2..77c9f5816c31 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>> @@ -7289,9 +7289,6 @@ cpu_util(int cpu, struct task_struct *p, int dst_cpu, int boost)
>>>
>>>               util_est = READ_ONCE(cfs_rq->avg.util_est.enqueued);
>>>
>>> -             if (boost)
>>> -                     util_est = max(util_est, runnable);
>>> -
>>>               /*
>>>                * During wake-up @p isn't enqueued yet and doesn't contribute
>>>                * to any cpu_rq(cpu)->cfs.avg.util_est.enqueued.
>>> --
>>> 2.34.1
>>>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-21 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-06 13:51 Vincent Guittot
2023-07-11 15:47 ` Qais Yousef
2023-07-12 15:30   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-07-21 16:09     ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2023-07-24 13:06       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-07-24 21:11         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-27 11:56           ` Qais Yousef
2023-07-31 10:19 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot

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