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From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Jim Houston <jim.houston@ccur.com>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	anton@samba.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	ak@muc.de, davidm@hpl.hp.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	ralf@gnu.org, willy@debian.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer (lets try again)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:07:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DF673B9.4E273E83@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021209154142.GA22901@nevyn.them.org>

Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 09:57:08AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > I just pushed my version of the system call restart code to the BK trees.
> > It's losely based on Georges code, but subtly different. Also, I didn't
> > actually update any actual system calls to use it, I just did the
> > infrastructure.
> >
> > Non-x86 architectures need to be updated to work with this: they need to
> > update their thread structures, the additional do_signal() support in
> > their signal.c, and add the actual system call itself somewhere. For x86,
> > this was about 15 lines of changes.
> >
> > The basic premise is very simple: if you want to restart a system call,
> > you can do
> >
> >       restart = &current_thread()->restart_block;
> >       restart->fn = my_continuation_function;
> >       restart->arg0 = my_arg0_for_continuation;
> >       restart->arg1 = my_arg1_for_continuation;
> >       ..
> >       return -ERESTARTSYS_RESTARTBLOCK;
> >
> > which will cause the system call to either return -EINTR (if a signal
> > handler was actually invoced) or for "benign" signals (SIGSTOP etc) it
> > will end up restarting the system call at the continuation function (with
> > the "restart" block as the argument).
> >
> > We could extend this to allow restarting even over signal handlers, but
> > that would have some re-entrancy issues (ie what happens if a signal
> > handler itself wants to use a system call that may want restarting), so at
> > least for now restarting is only done when no handler is invoced (*).
> >
> >                       Linus
> >
> > (*) The nesting case is by no means impossible to handle gracefully
> > (adding a "restart even if handler is called" error number and returning
> > -EINTR if nesting, for example), but I don't know of any system calls that
> > would really want to try to restart anyway, so..
> 
> Well, here's something to consider.  This isn't entirely hypothetical;
> there are test cases in GDB's regression suite that cover nearly this.
> 
> Suppose a process is sleeping for an hour.  The user wants to see what
> another thread is doing, so he hits Control-C; the thread which happens
> to be reported as 'current' is the one that was in nanosleep().  It
> used to be that when he said continue, the nanosleep would return; now
> hopefully it'll continue.  Great!  But this damnable user isn't done
> yet.  He wants to look at one of his data structures.  He calls a
> debugging print_foo() function from GDB.  He realizes he left a
> sleep-for-a-minute nanosleep call in it and C-c's again.  Now we have
> two interrupted nanosleep calls and the application will never see a
> signal to interrupt either of them; he says "continue" twice and
> expects to get back to his hour-long sleep.
> 
> Note that I'm not saying we _need_ to support this, mind :)  It's a
> little pathological.

I seem to recall working on a debugger in the distant past
and put a lock in it that did not allow it to run a debuggee
function while the debugee was in a system call.  It seems
to me that is is begging for problems and is not that hard
for gdb/etc to prevent.

Daniel, what to you think?

-g
> 
> Another thing that annoys me slightly about this is that we mess with
> the value in orig_eax etc.  Now a debugger would have to look at the
> instruction stream to figure out what the syscall was that we're
> stopped in, reliably.  Not a big deal.
> 
> --
> Daniel Jacobowitz
> MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer

-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-12-10 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-04  7:02 Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-04  7:07 ` [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer - PPC64 Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-06 23:03   ` Anton Blanchard
2002-12-04  7:16 ` [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer - SPARC64 Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-04  7:18 ` [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer - X86_64 Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-04 11:29   ` Andi Kleen
2002-12-04  7:26 ` [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer - IA64 Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-04  7:37   ` David Mosberger
2002-12-04  7:28 ` [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer (lets try again) Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-04  7:29 ` [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer - PARISC Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-04  7:30 ` [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer (lets try again) Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-04  7:33 ` Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-04 11:57 ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-04 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-04 16:54   ` David S. Miller
2002-12-04 17:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-04 19:56 ` george anzinger
2002-12-04 20:07   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-04 20:56     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-12-04 22:09       ` David S. Miller
2002-12-04 22:31         ` george anzinger
2002-12-04 22:39           ` David S. Miller
2002-12-04 22:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-04 23:42     ` Jim Houston
2002-12-05  0:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-05  2:01         ` george anzinger
2002-12-05  2:51           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-05  3:10             ` Andi Kleen
2002-12-05  3:46             ` george anzinger
2002-12-05  4:11               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-05  7:10                 ` george anzinger
2002-12-05  9:48                 ` george anzinger
2002-12-05 15:24                   ` Jim Houston
2002-12-05 16:35                     ` george anzinger
2002-12-06  0:03                       ` Richard Henderson
2002-12-05 17:03                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-06  9:17                     ` george anzinger
2002-12-06 17:57                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-06 19:20                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-06 20:09                           ` [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer (let's " Jim Houston
2002-12-06 20:33                             ` george anzinger
2002-12-06 20:18                           ` [PATCH] compatibility syscall layer (lets " george anzinger
2002-12-06 21:12                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-06 21:56                               ` Jim Houston
2002-12-06 22:58                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-07  2:25                                   ` george anzinger
2002-12-06 23:08                                 ` george anzinger
2002-12-08 20:41                           ` David S. Miller
2002-12-09  6:18                             ` Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-09 15:41                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-12-09 16:48                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-09 17:27                             ` David Mosberger
2002-12-09 20:22                               ` David S. Miller
2002-12-09 17:49                             ` Jim Houston
2002-12-09 17:57                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-09 23:30                             ` Paul Mackerras
2002-12-10 23:07                           ` george anzinger [this message]
2002-12-11  7:10                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-12-11  8:11                               ` george anzinger
2002-12-11  8:26                                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-12-10 11:08             ` Jamie Lokier
2002-12-05  2:27         ` Jim Houston
2002-12-09 16:58 Mikael Starvik
2002-12-09 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-09 18:46   ` David Mosberger
2002-12-10  0:13   ` Paul Mackerras
2002-12-10 23:11     ` george anzinger
2002-12-09 17:16 Martin Schwidefsky
2002-12-09 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-09 20:18 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-09 17:56 Martin Schwidefsky
2002-12-09 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-10 14:40 ` Keith Owens
2002-12-09 18:41 Martin Schwidefsky
2002-12-09 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-10  8:20   ` george anzinger
2002-12-10  8:42 Martin Schwidefsky
2002-12-10 17:17 Martin Schwidefsky

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