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From: Alexander Atanasov <alexander.atanasov@virtuozzo.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: kernel@openvz.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/2] Create debugfs file with virtio balloon usage information
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2022 19:34:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a5e60e8-a0d2-a1f1-28e9-e0b45069029a@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d0703da-ae89-7002-f500-300a4b5d206b@redhat.com>


On 01/08/2022 18:18, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 26.07.22 16:08, Alexander Atanasov wrote:
>> Allow the guest to know how much it is ballooned by the host
>> and how that memory is accounted.
>>
>> It is useful when debugging out of memory conditions,
>> as well for userspace processes that monitor the memory pressure
>> and for nested virtualization.
>>
>> Depending on the deflate on oom flag memory is accounted in two ways.
>> If the flag is set the inflated pages are accounted as used memory.
>> If the flag is not set the inflated pages are substracted from totalram.
>> To make clear how are inflated pages accounted sign prefix the value.
>> Where negative means substracted from totalram and positive means
>> they are accounted as used.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Alexander Atanasov <alexander.atanasov@virtuozzo.com>
>> ---
>>   drivers/virtio/virtio_balloon.c | 59 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 59 insertions(+)
>>
>> V2:
>>    - fixed coding style
>>    - removed pretty print
>> V3:
>>    - removed dublicate of features
>>    - comment about balooned_pages more clear
>>    - convert host pages to balloon pages
>> V4:
>>    - added a define for BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE to make things clear
>> V5:
>>    - Made the calculatons work properly for both ways of memory accounting
>>      with or without deflate_on_oom
>>    - dropped comment
>> V6:
>>    - reduced the file to minimum
>>    - unify accounting
>>
>> I didn't understand if you agree to change the accounting to be the same
>> so following part 2 is about it.
>>
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/virtio/virtio_balloon.c b/drivers/virtio/virtio_balloon.c
>> index f4c34a2a6b8e..97d3b29cb9f1 100644
>> --- a/drivers/virtio/virtio_balloon.c
>> +++ b/drivers/virtio/virtio_balloon.c
>> @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
>>   #include <linux/virtio_balloon.h>
>>   #include <linux/swap.h>
>>   #include <linux/workqueue.h>
>> +#include <linux/debugfs.h>
>>   #include <linux/delay.h>
>>   #include <linux/slab.h>
>>   #include <linux/module.h>
>> @@ -731,6 +732,59 @@ static void report_free_page_func(struct work_struct *work)
>>   	}
>>   }
>>   
>> +/*
>> + * DEBUGFS Interface
>> + */
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_FS
>> +
>> +/**
>> + * virtio_balloon_debug_show - shows statistics of balloon operations.
>> + * @f: pointer to the &struct seq_file.
>> + * @offset: ignored.
>> + *
>> + * Provides the statistics that can be accessed in virtio-balloon in the debugfs.
>> + *
>> + * Return: zero on success or an error code.
>> + */
>> +
> Superfluous empty line. Personally, I'd just get rid of this
> (comparatively obvious) documentation completely.
Ok.
>
>> +static int virtio_balloon_debug_show(struct seq_file *f, void *offset)
>> +{
>> +	struct virtio_balloon *vb = f->private;
>> +	s64 num_pages = vb->num_pages << (VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT - 10);
> Rather call this "inflated_kb" then, it's no longer "pages".
Ok.
>
>> +
>> +	if (!virtio_has_feature(vb->vdev, VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM))
>> +		num_pages = -num_pages;
> With VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM this will now always report "0".
>
> which would be the same as "num_pages = 0;" and would deserve a comment
> explaining why we don't indicate that as "inflated: ".
>
> Thanks.

Except if "now"  refers to some commit that i am missing it does not report 0.


with qemu-system-x86_64  -enable-kvm -device virtio-balloon,id=balloon0,deflate-on-oom=on,notify_on_empty=on,page-per-vq=on -m 3G ....

/ # cat /sys/kernel/debug/virtio-balloon
inflated: 0 kB
/ # QEMU 4.2.1 monitor - type 'help' for more information
(qemu) balloon 1024
(qemu)

/ # cat /sys/kernel/debug/virtio-balloon
inflated: 2097152 kB
/ #

with qemu-system-x86_64  -enable-kvm -device 
virtio-balloon,id=balloon0,deflate-on-oom=off,notify_on_empty=on,page-per-vq=on 
-m 3G ...

/ # cat /sys/kernel/debug/virtio-balloon
inflated: 0 kB
/ # QEMU 4.2.1 monitor - type 'help' for more information
(qemu) balloon 1024
(qemu)
/ # cat /sys/kernel/debug/virtio-balloon
inflated: -2097152 kB

To join the threads:

>> Always account inflated memory as used for both cases - with and
>> without deflate on oom. Do not change total ram which can confuse
>> userspace and users.

> Sorry, but NAK.

Ok.

> This would affect existing users / user space / balloon stats. For example
> HV just recently switch to properly using adjust_managed_page_count()


I am wondering what's the rationale behind this i have never seen such users
that expect it to work like this. Do you have any pointers to such users, so
i can understood why they do so ?

-- 

Regards,
Alexander Atanasov


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-01 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-05  8:36 [PATCH v4 1/1] " Alexander Atanasov
2022-07-05  8:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-05  9:01   ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-09 10:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-09 13:33       ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-07-13 16:25   ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-07-14 11:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-14 13:20   ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-07-14 13:24     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-14 13:35       ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-07-14 13:20   ` [PATCH v5 " Alexander Atanasov
2022-07-18 11:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-25 11:27       ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-07-25 11:36         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-26 14:08           ` [PATCH v6 1/2] " Alexander Atanasov
2022-07-26 14:10             ` [PATCH v6 2/2] Unify how inflated memory is accounted in virtio balloon driver Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-01 15:13               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 10:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-01 15:18             ` [PATCH v6 1/2] Create debugfs file with virtio balloon usage information David Hildenbrand
2022-08-01 16:34               ` Alexander Atanasov [this message]
2022-08-01 20:12                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-02  8:53                   ` [RFC] how the ballooned memory should be accounted by the drivers inside the guests? (was:[PATCH v6 1/2] Create debugfs file with virtio balloon usage information) Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-02 13:48                     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09  9:36                       ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-09  9:49                         ` [PATCH v1 1/2] Enable balloon drivers to report inflated memory Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-09  9:53                           ` [PATCH v1 2/2] Drivers: virtio: balloon: Report " Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-09 17:44                             ` Nadav Amit
2022-08-15 12:52                               ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-15 16:05                                 ` Nadav Amit
2022-08-16  7:50                                   ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-09 10:32                           ` [PATCH v1 1/2] Enable balloon drivers to report " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-10  5:54                             ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-10  6:05                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-10  7:50                                 ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-10  9:16                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-10  3:05                           ` Muchun Song
2022-08-10  5:14                             ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-08-09 10:03                         ` [RFC] how the ballooned memory should be accounted by the drivers inside the guests? (was:[PATCH v6 1/2] Create debugfs file with virtio balloon usage information) David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 10:44             ` [PATCH v6 1/2] Create debugfs file with virtio balloon usage information Michael S. Tsirkin

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