From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
Artem Bityutskiy <artem.bityutskiy@linux.intel.com>,
Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFT][PATCH v1 4/5] cpuidle: menu: Eliminate outliers on both ends of the sample set
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 13:26:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3bbd1ada-0d26-4c91-b1f3-a947caf5abd0@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2301940.iZASKD2KPV@rjwysocki.net>
On 2/6/25 14:26, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>
> Currently, get_typical_interval() attempts to eliminate outliers at the
> high end of the sample set only (probably in order to bias the prediction
> toward lower values), but this it problematic because if the outliers are
> present at the low end of the sample set, discarding the highest values
> will not help to reduce the variance.
>
> Since the presence of outliers at the low end of the sample set is
> generally as likely as their presence at the high end of the sample
> set, modify get_typical_interval() to treat samples at the largest
> distances from the average (on both ends of the sample set) as outliers.
>
> This should increase the likelihood of making a meaningful prediction
> in some cases.
>
> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> ---
> drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> 1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>
> --- a/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
> +++ b/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
> @@ -116,30 +116,37 @@
> */
> static unsigned int get_typical_interval(struct menu_device *data)
> {
> - unsigned int max, divisor, thresh = UINT_MAX;
> + s64 value, min_thresh = -1, max_thresh = UINT_MAX;
> + unsigned int max, min, divisor;
> u64 avg, variance, avg_sq;
> int i;
>
> again:
> /* Compute the average and variance of past intervals. */
> max = 0;
> + min = UINT_MAX;
> avg = 0;
> variance = 0;
> divisor = 0;
> for (i = 0; i < INTERVALS; i++) {
> - unsigned int value = data->intervals[i];
> -
> - /* Discard data points above or at the threshold. */
> - if (value >= thresh)
> + value = data->intervals[i];
> + /*
> + * Discard the samples outside the interval between the min and
> + * max thresholds.
> + */
> + if (value <= min_thresh || value >= max_thresh)
> continue;
>
> divisor++;
>
> avg += value;
> - variance += (u64)value * value;
> + variance += value * value;
>
> if (value > max)
> max = value;
> +
> + if (value < min)
> + min = value;
> }
>
> if (!max)
> @@ -175,10 +182,10 @@
> }
>
> /*
> - * If we have outliers to the upside in our distribution, discard
> - * those by setting the threshold to exclude these outliers, then
> + * If there are outliers, discard them by setting thresholds to exclude
> + * data points at a large enough distance from the average, then
> * calculate the average and standard deviation again. Once we get
> - * down to the bottom 3/4 of our samples, stop excluding samples.
> + * down to the last 3/4 of our samples, stop excluding samples.
> *
> * This can deal with workloads that have long pauses interspersed
> * with sporadic activity with a bunch of short pauses.
> @@ -186,7 +193,12 @@
> if ((divisor * 4) <= INTERVALS * 3)
> return UINT_MAX;
>
> - thresh = max;
> + /* Update the thresholds for the next round. */
> + if (avg - min > max - avg)
> + min_thresh = min;
> + else
> + max_thresh = max;
> +
> goto again;
> }
Reviewed-by: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-17 13:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-06 14:21 [RFT][PATCH v1 0/5] cpuidle: menu: Avoid discarding useful information when processing recent idle intervals Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-06 14:22 ` [RFT][PATCH v1 1/5] cpuidle: menu: Drop a redundant local variable Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-06 14:55 ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-06 14:24 ` [RFT][PATCH v1 2/5] cpuidle: menu: Use one loop for average and variance computations Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-17 13:03 ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-06 14:25 ` [RFT][PATCH v1 3/5] cpuidle: menu: Tweak threshold use in get_typical_interval() Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-17 13:08 ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-06 14:26 ` [RFT][PATCH v1 4/5] cpuidle: menu: Eliminate outliers on both ends of the sample set Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-17 13:26 ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2025-02-06 14:29 ` [RFT][PATCH v1 5/5] cpuidle: menu: Avoid discarding useful information Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-17 13:39 ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-17 13:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-08-04 16:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2025-08-05 13:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-08-05 14:41 ` Christian Loehle
2025-08-05 16:00 ` Marc Zyngier
2025-08-05 18:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-08-06 7:19 ` Marc Zyngier
2025-08-06 12:48 ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-07 14:48 ` [RFT][PATCH v1 0/5] cpuidle: menu: Avoid discarding useful information when processing recent idle intervals Artem Bityutskiy
2025-02-07 15:24 ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-07 15:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-07 15:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-03-12 21:38 ` Doug Smythies
2025-02-10 14:15 ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-10 14:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-10 14:47 ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-18 21:17 ` Christian Loehle
2025-02-19 12:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-14 4:30 ` Doug Smythies
2025-02-14 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-16 16:16 ` Doug Smythies
2025-02-24 6:27 ` Aboorva Devarajan
2025-02-24 6:38 ` Aboorva Devarajan
2025-02-24 12:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-02-26 4:49 ` Aboorva Devarajan
2025-02-26 10:54 ` Christian Loehle
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