From: Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sh@gentwo.org,
Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Let sync wakeups target the waker's core
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 17:43:30 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40536fd1-cdc6-4fac-a78f-1ed0df1fcce6@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <492e6bb3-504d-486a-ad9d-226e9d7235a3@amd.com>
Hello Prateek,
On 04/08/26 10:19, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Vineeth,
>
> On 8/1/2026 9:25 AM, Madadi Vineeth Reddy wrote:
>> -static int select_idle_core(struct task_struct *p, int core, struct cpumask *cpus, int *idle_cpu)
>> +static int select_idle_core(struct task_struct *p, int core, struct cpumask *cpus,
>> + int *idle_cpu, int sync_cpu)
>> {
>> bool idle = true;
>> int cpu;
>>
>> for_each_cpu(cpu, cpu_smt_mask(core)) {
>> - if (!available_idle_cpu(cpu)) {
>> + bool sync_waker = (cpu == sync_cpu);
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * @sync_cpu, if set, is running a waker that is about to
>> + * block with nothing else runnable behind it. Treat it as
>> + * idle so this core stays an idle-core candidate: placing
>> + * the wakee on a sibling keeps the cache sharing that
>> + * stacking on the waker's rq would get, without serialising
>> + * the wakee behind the waker's remaining work.
>> + */
>> + if (!available_idle_cpu(cpu) && !sync_waker) {
>
> If I'm not wrong, all you want to make is the sync_waker appear idle and
> then see if you can then consider that core as idle core or not right?
>
Correct.
> Why can't this be done in select_idle_sibling() extending that early
> check for (!has_idle_core && cpus_share_cache(prev, target)) condition
> and then initializing "idle_cpu" in select_idle_cpu() accordingly?
>
> Something along the lines of:
>
> (Only build tested)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index df8c9c2c7918..dd62bceb3838 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -1301,7 +1301,6 @@ static bool update_deadline(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
>
> #include "pelt.h"
>
> -static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu, int cpu);
> static unsigned long task_h_load(struct task_struct *p);
> static unsigned long capacity_of(int cpu);
>
> @@ -8661,10 +8660,11 @@ static int select_idle_smt(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int t
> * comparing the average scan cost (tracked in sd->avg_scan_cost) against the
> * average idle time for this rq (as found in rq->avg_idle).
> */
> -static int select_idle_cpu(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, bool has_idle_core, int target)
> +static int select_idle_cpu(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, bool has_idle_core,
> + int target, int idle_cpu)
> {
> struct cpumask *cpus = this_cpu_cpumask_var_ptr(select_rq_mask);
> - int i, cpu, idle_cpu = -1, nr = INT_MAX;
> + int i, cpu, nr = INT_MAX;
>
> if (sched_feat(SIS_UTIL) && sd->shared) {
> /*
> @@ -8928,7 +8928,7 @@ static inline bool asym_fits_cpu(unsigned long util,
> /*
> * Try and locate an idle core/thread in the LLC cache domain.
> */
> -static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev, int target)
> +static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev, int target, int sync_cpu)
> {
> bool has_idle_core = false;
> struct sched_domain *sd;
> @@ -9028,16 +9028,19 @@ static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev, int target)
> return target;
>
> if (sched_smt_active()) {
> + int cpu = ((unsigned)sync_cpu < nr_cpumask_bits) ? sync_cpu : prev;
> +
> has_idle_core = test_idle_cores(target);
>
> - if (!has_idle_core && cpus_share_cache(prev, target)) {
> - i = select_idle_smt(p, sd, prev);
> - if ((unsigned int)i < nr_cpumask_bits)
> + if (sync_cpu == target || (!has_idle_core && cpus_share_cache(prev, target))) {
> + i = select_idle_smt(p, sd, cpu);
> +
> + if (!has_idle_core && ((unsigned int)i < nr_cpumask_bits))
> return i;
> }
> }
>
> - i = select_idle_cpu(p, sd, has_idle_core, target);
> + i = select_idle_cpu(p, sd, has_idle_core, target, i);
`i` which is passed could be garbage value if we don't enter sched_smt_active block.
> if ((unsigned)i < nr_cpumask_bits)
> return i;
>
This is different from what I wanted to achieve in a couple of ways.
- Calling `select_idle_smt()` in sync case, would only give an idle CPU in that core but doesn't
test if that core is idle. That would be lost.
- You return `i` only when `!has_idle_core`, but I wanted to return waker core given that rest of the siblings
in that waker core are idle even though there are other idle cores present in the LLC.
I agree that this could be done in `select_idle_sibling` but with a helper function.
Something like below (build tested)
diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index df8c9c2c7918..448af3c4b183 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -1301,7 +1301,7 @@ static bool update_deadline(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
#include "pelt.h"
-static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu, int cpu);
+static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu, int cpu, bool sync_core);
static unsigned long task_h_load(struct task_struct *p);
static unsigned long capacity_of(int cpu);
@@ -8656,6 +8656,27 @@ static int select_idle_smt(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int t
return -1;
}
+static int select_idle_sync_core(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd,
+ int target)
+{
+ int cpu, idle_sibling = -1;
+
+ for_each_cpu(cpu, cpu_smt_mask(target)) {
+ if (cpu == target)
+ continue;
+
+ if (!available_idle_cpu(cpu))
+ return -1;
+
+ if (idle_sibling == -1 &&
+ cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, sched_domain_span(sd)) &&
+ cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, p->cpus_ptr))
+ idle_sibling = cpu;
+ }
+
+ return idle_sibling;
+}
+
/*
* Scan the LLC domain for idle CPUs; this is dynamically regulated by
* comparing the average scan cost (tracked in sd->avg_scan_cost) against the
@@ -8928,7 +8949,7 @@ static inline bool asym_fits_cpu(unsigned long util,
/*
* Try and locate an idle core/thread in the LLC cache domain.
*/
-static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev, int target)
+static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev, int target, bool sync_core)
{
bool has_idle_core = false;
struct sched_domain *sd;
@@ -9035,6 +9056,12 @@ static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev, int target)
if ((unsigned int)i < nr_cpumask_bits)
return i;
}
+
+ if (sync_core) {
+ i = select_idle_sync_core(p, sd, target);
+ if ((unsigned int)i < nr_cpumask_bits)
+ return i;
+ }
}
i = select_idle_cpu(p, sd, has_idle_core, target);
@@ -9733,8 +9760,16 @@ select_task_rq_fair(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu, int wake_flags)
return sched_balance_find_dst_cpu(sd, p, cpu, prev_cpu, sd_flag);
/* Fast path */
- if (wake_flags & WF_TTWU)
- return select_idle_sibling(p, prev_cpu, new_cpu);
+ if (wake_flags & WF_TTWU) {
+ bool sync_core = false;
+ if (want_affine && sync && new_cpu == cpu) {
+ struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
+
+ sync_core = (rq->nr_running - cfs_h_nr_delayed(rq)) == 1;
+ }
+
+ return select_idle_sibling(p, prev_cpu, new_cpu, sync_core);
+ }
return new_cpu;
}
This should also solve the issue raised by Zhan Xusheng and first target waker core given
that it is idle by giving exception to waker cpu.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Vineeth
> @@ -9733,8 +9736,18 @@ select_task_rq_fair(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu, int wake_flags)
> return sched_balance_find_dst_cpu(sd, p, cpu, prev_cpu, sd_flag);
>
> /* Fast path */
> - if (wake_flags & WF_TTWU)
> - return select_idle_sibling(p, prev_cpu, new_cpu);
> + if (wake_flags & WF_TTWU) {
> + int sync_cpu = -1;
> +
> + if (want_affine && sync && new_cpu == cpu) {
> + struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
> +
> + if ((rq->nr_running - cfs_h_nr_delayed(rq)) == 1)
> + sync_cpu = cpu;
> + }
> +
> + return select_idle_sibling(p, prev_cpu, new_cpu, sync_cpu);
> + }
>
> return new_cpu;
> }
> ---
>
> You can probably infer sync hint by checking
> "target == smp_preocessor_id()" too in select_idle_sibling() instead of
> passing it on.
>
>> idle = false;
>> if (*idle_cpu == -1) {
>> if (choose_sched_idle_rq(cpu_rq(cpu), p) &&
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-04 12:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-01 3:55 Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-08-01 6:43 ` Zhan Xusheng
2026-08-04 4:49 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-08-04 12:13 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy [this message]
2026-08-05 3:30 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-08-06 4:50 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-08-06 14:22 ` Chen Yu
2026-08-11 5:40 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-08-06 13:03 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-08-10 15:01 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-08-10 23:17 ` Kayra Cizmeci
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=40536fd1-cdc6-4fac-a78f-1ed0df1fcce6@linux.ibm.com \
--to=vineethr@linux.ibm.com \
--cc=bsegall@google.com \
--cc=dietmar.eggemann@arm.com \
--cc=juri.lelli@redhat.com \
--cc=kprateek.nayak@amd.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mgorman@suse.de \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=sh@gentwo.org \
--cc=vincent.guittot@linaro.org \
--cc=vschneid@redhat.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®