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From: Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
To: Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com>
Cc: bsegall@google.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mgorman@suse.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, sh@gentwo.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, vschneid@redhat.com,
	Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Let sync wakeups target the waker's core
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2026 20:31:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b45fda9f-f7b2-453f-9211-987a7bd07b9f@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260806130326.79538-1-kayracizmeci@gmail.com>

Hi Kayra,

On 06/08/26 18:33, Kayra Cizmeci wrote:
> Hi Vineeth,
> 
> Since all the numbers on this thread are from POWER, I ran this on x86 (Zen 3). I ran the test 3 times on both
> baseline and baseline + patch. 
> 

Thank you for running this on x86

> I first got the baseline from 0d83957076 that was like that: 
> 
> =num===cycles===cache-misses= 
> [ 1: 11266587459: 19064897  ]
> [ 2: 11329575367: 18860444  ]
> [ 3: 11283159019: 19121436  ]
> 
> Then, I got the 0d83957076 + this patch:
> 
> =num===cycles===cache-misses=
> [ 1: 11128721747: 19886131  ]
> [ 2: 11163014797: 20019508  ]
> [ 3: 11111832330: 19764849  ]

Can you also provide the benchmark numbers so as to see if this patch helped or not?
I would like to see whether the ping-pong throughput moved in the same direction as cycles.

> 
> I tested them with AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 8 Cores, 16 Threads or by other means SMT2. Busybox, minimal initramfs and 
> perf or to be more specific, this command: perf stat -r 10 -e cycles,cache-misses perf bench sched pipe
> 
> There is a 1.40% decrease of cycles baseline to this patch while there is a 4.60% increase in cache-misses. 
> Both of these values are average values of the decrease and the increase. The values also don't overlap.
> 
> I don't really have explanations for why this values came back like that, 
> I wasn't expecting them to be like this. Especially cache-misses.

It would help if you can get L1, L2, L3 misses split in both cases. May be L1/L2 misses
are more but since they are cheaper than L3, we may be alright or wakeup is cheaper when it
stays within a core, independently of any data-cache effect, in which case
the two counters are measuring unrelated things -- scheduling got cheaper
while the memory access pattern got worse. I do not have evidence for that
yet, which is why I would like the benchmark numbers.

> 
> Tested-by: Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com>

Will respin another version based on suggestions from Prateek and in_task() gate that Chen Yu
suggested. Let me know if I can carry forward this tag or drop it in v2.

Thanks,
Vineeth

> 
> Thanks,
> Kayra


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-10 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-01  3:55 Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-08-01  6:43 ` Zhan Xusheng
2026-08-04  4:49 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-08-04 12:13   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-08-05  3:30     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-08-06  4:50       ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-08-06 14:22         ` Chen Yu
2026-08-11  5:40           ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-08-06 13:03 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-08-10 15:01   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy [this message]
2026-08-10 23:17     ` Kayra Cizmeci

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