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From: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
To: Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com>,
	christian.koenig@amd.com,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: David.Panariti@amd.com, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander.Deucher@amd.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] drm/scheduler: Don't call wait_event_killable for signaled process.
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 17:25:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <407d81f4-54d4-64f4-c1a4-0095aa90bfb6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bceb1a1b-c453-782d-5a7d-40fa2f22c813@amd.com>

Am 30.04.2018 um 16:32 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
>
>
> On 04/30/2018 08:08 AM, Christian König wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> sorry for the late response, was on vacation last week.
>>
>> Am 26.04.2018 um 02:01 schrieb Eric W. Biederman:
>>> Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 04/25/2018 01:17 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>>>> On 04/25, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>>>>>> here (drm_sched_entity_fini) is also a bad idea, but we still 
>>>>>> want to be
>>>>>> able to exit immediately
>>>>>> and not wait for GPU jobs completion when the reason for reaching 
>>>>>> this code
>>>>>> is because of KILL
>>>>>> signal to the user process who opened the device file.
>>>>> Can you hook f_op->flush method?
>>
>> THANKS! That sounds like a really good idea to me and we haven't 
>> investigated into that direction yet.
>>
>>>> But this one is called for each task releasing a reference to the 
>>>> the file, so
>>>> not sure I see how this solves the problem.
>>> The big question is why do you need to wait during the final closing a
>>> file?
>>
>> As always it's because of historical reasons. Initially user space 
>> pushed commands directly to a hardware queue and when a processes 
>> finished we didn't need to wait for anything.
>>
>> Then the GPU scheduler was introduced which delayed pushing the jobs 
>> to the hardware queue to a later point in time.
>>
>> This wait was then added to maintain backward compability and not 
>> break userspace (but see below).
>>
>>> The wait can be terminated so the wait does not appear to be simply a
>>> matter of correctness.
>>
>> Well when the process is killed we don't care about correctness any 
>> more, we just want to get rid of it as quickly as possible (OOM 
>> situation etc...).
>>
>> But it is perfectly possible that a process submits some render 
>> commands and then calls exit() or terminates because of a SIGTERM, 
>> SIGINT etc.. In this case we need to wait here to make sure that all 
>> rendering is pushed to the hardware because the scheduler might need 
>> resources/settings from the file descriptor.
>>
>> For example if you just remove that wait you could close firefox and 
>> get garbage on the screen for a millisecond because the remaining 
>> rendering commands where not executed.
>>
>> So what we essentially need is to distinct between a SIGKILL (which 
>> means stop processing as soon as possible) and any other reason 
>> because then we don't want to annoy the user with garbage on the 
>> screen (even if it's just for a few milliseconds).
>>
>> Constructive ideas how to handle this would be very welcome, cause I 
>> completely agree that what we have at the moment by checking 
>> PF_SIGNAL is just a very very hacky workaround.
>
> What about changing PF_SIGNALED to  PF_EXITING in 
> drm_sched_entity_do_release
>
> -       if ((current->flags & PF_SIGNALED) && current->exit_code == 
> SIGKILL)
> +      if ((current->flags & PF_EXITING) && current->exit_code == 
> SIGKILL)
>
> From looking into do_exit and it's callers , current->exit_code will 
> get assign the signal which was delivered to the task. If SIGINT was 
> sent then it's SIGINT, if SIGKILL then SIGKILL.

That's at least a band aid to stop us from abusing PF_SIGNALED.

But additional to that change, can you investigate when f_ops->flush() 
is called when the process exists normally, because of SIGKILL or 
because of some other signal?

Could be that this is more closely to what we are searching for,
Christian.

>
> Andrey
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Christian.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Eric
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>>> amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
>>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/amd-gfx
>>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-30 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-24 15:30 Avoid uninterruptible sleep during process exit Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] signals: Allow generation of SIGKILL to exiting task Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 16:10   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-24 16:42   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-24 16:51     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 17:29       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-25 13:13   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-24 15:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm/scheduler: Don't call wait_event_killable for signaled process Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 15:46   ` Michel Dänzer
2018-04-24 15:51     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 15:52     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 19:44     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-24 21:00       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-24 21:02       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 21:21         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-24 21:37           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 22:11             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-25  7:14             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 13:08               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-25 15:29                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                   ` <311660b9-9e46-b960-3088-06e16ac3838d@amd.com>
2018-04-25 16:31                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-24 21:40         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 13:22           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-25 13:36             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 14:18               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-25 13:43           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 16:23   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-24 16:43     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 17:12       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-25 13:55         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-25 14:21           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-25 17:17             ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-25 18:40               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-26  0:01                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-26 12:34                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-26 12:52                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-26 15:57                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-26 20:43                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-30 12:08                   ` Christian König
2018-04-30 14:32                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-30 15:25                       ` Christian König [this message]
2018-04-30 16:00                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-30 16:10                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-30 18:29                           ` Christian König
2018-04-30 19:28                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-05-02 11:48                               ` Christian König
2018-05-01 14:35                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-23 15:08                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-30 15:29                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-30 16:25                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-30 17:18                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-25 13:05   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-24 15:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] drm/amdgpu: Switch to interrupted wait to recover from ring hang Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 15:52   ` Panariti, David
2018-04-24 15:58     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 16:20       ` Panariti, David
2018-04-24 16:30         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-25 17:17           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-25 20:55             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-26 12:28               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-24 16:14   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-24 16:38     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-04-30 11:34   ` Christian König

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